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  • cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

    At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

    The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

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      Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

      At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

      The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

      bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB This user is from outside of this forum
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      Guys, Israel can be committing war crimes and genocide and Hamas can be inflating death tolls. Both can be true.

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      • cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC [email protected]

        Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

        At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

        The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

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        What? Hamas, an organisation seeking to eradicate Jews, may be capitalising on the (righteous) public outcry of Israeli war crimes? They might even be lying? Absolutely impossible, my side (TM) could do no wrong!
        (/s, obviously)

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          Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

          At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

          The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

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          I didn't know the Henry Jackson Society mentioned in this article. By doing a quick search I found this article, and it looks like it is funded by Zionists.

          Islamophobia sponsored by Zionist think tanks

          If you have info contradicting it, please share.

          dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC 3 Replies Last reply
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          • cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC [email protected]

            Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

            At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

            The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

            jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            "In war, truth is the first casualty."

            Which, ironically, has been mis-attributed to any number of people.

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            • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

              Guys, Israel can be committing war crimes and genocide and Hamas can be inflating death tolls. Both can be true.

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              And there is the Lancet Report:

              Gaza death toll 40% higher than the official number, Lancet study finds - The Guardian

              Analysis estimates death toll by end of June was 64,260, with 59% being women, children and people over 65

              The actual report: Traumatic injury mortality in the Gaza Strip from Oct 7, 2023, to June 30, 2024: a capture–recapture analysis

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                I didn't know the Henry Jackson Society mentioned in this article. By doing a quick search I found this article, and it looks like it is funded by Zionists.

                Islamophobia sponsored by Zionist think tanks

                If you have info contradicting it, please share.

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                • Hamas does terrorist things
                • "But the zIoNiSts!!1"
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                  I didn't know the Henry Jackson Society mentioned in this article. By doing a quick search I found this article, and it looks like it is funded by Zionists.

                  Islamophobia sponsored by Zionist think tanks

                  If you have info contradicting it, please share.

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                  And PressTV is an Iranian state media. Of course they are anti Israel.

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                    I didn't know the Henry Jackson Society mentioned in this article. By doing a quick search I found this article, and it looks like it is funded by Zionists.

                    Islamophobia sponsored by Zionist think tanks

                    If you have info contradicting it, please share.

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                    I don't care what the Iranian Government says.

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                    • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                      And PressTV is an Iranian state media. Of course they are anti Israel.

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                      Ok, I hear you about Press TV.

                      If you have links contradicting the content of the article itself, please share.

                      Note: About links from wiki on this topic I am skeptical after seeing the following video. So other sources are welcome.

                      Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia - Israel National News

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                      • cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC [email protected]

                        Some 3,400 previously identified deaths from its August and October 2024 reports can no longer be found in the PDFs released by the ministry, which doesn’t differentiate between combatants and civilians.

                        At least 1,000 children are among those no longer on the list, according to two research reports, which corroborated each other's findings.

                        The discrepancy has made researchers concerned about the possibility of numbers being intentionally inflated by Hamas, especially since the health ministry’s figures are widely reported in international media and seen as relevant by the likes of the UN, and triggering widespread social response and even political developments.

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                        Fuck off, fascist OP.

                        Genocide is genocide.

                        The fact that 1000 children is a rounding error is indicative of the mass murder.

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                        • cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winC [email protected]

                          I don't care what the Iranian Government says.

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                          You can google it from any other source, phony.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

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                          • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                            And PressTV is an Iranian state media. Of course they are anti Israel.

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                            You can google this info anywhere, creep.

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                            • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]
                              • Hamas does terrorist things
                              • "But the zIoNiSts!!1"
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                              Zionists invade, steal land and genocide for 100+ years.

                              "But H4MaSSS!!!"

                              (this is the historically literate take.)

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                                What? Hamas, an organisation seeking to eradicate Jews, may be capitalising on the (righteous) public outcry of Israeli war crimes? They might even be lying? Absolutely impossible, my side (TM) could do no wrong!
                                (/s, obviously)

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                                Imagine this is your response when you find out that 19,000 children have been murdered instead of 20,000.

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                                  What? Hamas, an organisation seeking to eradicate Jews, may be capitalising on the (righteous) public outcry of Israeli war crimes? They might even be lying? Absolutely impossible, my side (TM) could do no wrong!
                                  (/s, obviously)

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                                  an organisation seeking to eradicate Jews

                                  This is just a zio tale.

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                                  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                                    Guys, Israel can be committing war crimes and genocide and Hamas can be inflating death tolls. Both can be true.

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                                    I doubt it, death tolls are typically low-ball unless they have exact numbers.

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                                    • dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]
                                      • Hamas does terrorist things
                                      • "But the zIoNiSts!!1"
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                                      If you come into my neighborhood and kill 50% of people and move in it's "Terrorism" to remove you because other white people said so.

                                      It's only Terrorism because Hamas will lose and history is written by the winners.

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                                        You can google it from any other source, phony.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

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                                        Lol, I mean, the link you provided... to wikipedia... says they've been 'accused' of being right-wing or non-partisan so I guess take your pick who to believe? Their mission statement seems pretty respectable to me.

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                                          Fuck off, fascist OP.

                                          Genocide is genocide.

                                          The fact that 1000 children is a rounding error is indicative of the mass murder.

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                                          What's that expression?

                                          'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 50,000 times I become a rabid terrorist supporting gullible rube'.

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