Murders of two female students prompt calls for a ‘cultural rebellion’ in Italy
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Just FYI, you're arguing with someone that agrees with you.
I agree with you too, but only about your main point.
Not "all men."That assumption is the same logic as bigots and the very "men" you are trying to chastize. Let me just rephrase what you wrote to make my point:
It truly is 'all women' when it comes to a discussion about being involuntarily celibate. Using whataboutism to studiously ignore the issue at hand.
You literally are using the same arguments that incels do to justify their hatred and punishment of women.
Just changing the who and what in that argument does not make it a logically sound one.
Anecdotally, I'm a man, and one that has literally saved a woman from being arrested for assault because I recognized she was having an extreme bipolar manic episode, and not just "going crazy" like her female friends believed when they called the cops on her.
The belief our penis prevents us from acting humane is laughable bigotry.
If you want to make a scientific point, don't follow it with unscientific insults.
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Only after they do it. It doesn't prevent anything.
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Their point was money is being spent. Is it not best spent on actually stopping this from happening?
We know that this isn't actually about that and prison is not either. That's not the point. The point is people are fighting for the wrong things if they actually want to help.
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Sadly for you the statistic show increasing punishment does not actually work to prevent them from committing these crimes. It can work for some crimes, but not this kind, and also only up to a certain point.
Sadly this needs to be spelt out to you, but if we're spending resources on something we should make an attempt to use it as efficiently as possible. We have studies that show the efficacy of different types and degrees of punishment, as well as rehabilitation methods. Rehabilitation can get some people (not all) to become contributing members of society, where they'll actually be a benefit instead of a cost.
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How many of those were self-defense (from either sex)? I wouldn't mix them for this discussion.
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You can try as much as you like to excuse women from responsibility for killing their partners, but the fact of the matter is, women can be just as ruthless as men, just usually in different ways.
Maternal infanticide is still a thing, and a "pediatric study of mothers in the general population found that 70% of mothers with colicky infants experienced explicit aggressive thoughts toward their infants, and over a quarter (26%) of them had infanticidal thoughts during colic episodes". So, 26% of these kind and loving creatures thought of killing their own child because they cried a lot.
There is a gender disparity, and a much greater difference in expression, but if you want to deal with the root causes of violence, you will have to look beyond gender.
And no, I don't have a pile of these saved up. I'm just willing to accept that people are people, regardless of gender or a myriad of other demographics, unless a clear link is shown between the demographic and the behavior being examined. The trend towards being shitty has far greater factors than gender.
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Gotta love when racists use a single instance to push their hate. Yet most Rapist and Pedo’s in Italy are White. Hmmmmmmmmm. Maybe the whites should be locked up at birth to protect people.
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They are literally lancating a new law, maybe read the fucking artocle?
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Huh? I explicitly said I would separate self defense for both sexes, because I believe those aren't what we are talking about. I wasn't defending or excusing "women".
Also, both women and men kill because of serious mental disorders ('insanity' in legal terms in the U.S.). How many of those maternal infanticides can be explained by post-partum psychosis or similar conditions? I wouldn't count murders by insane people (from neither sex).
I suspect you're not as unbiased as you'd think...
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This whole thing started because of the line, "It's not all men, but it's always a man." I've given a number of circumstances where it's definitively not a man, so is it always a man or not?
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