Downvoting posts that commit logical fallacies.
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I downvote spelling problems immediately. I bet there's a high correlation between fallacies and "can't spell for shit".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This is a type of ad hominem fallacy because you're downvoting based on something about the speaker that is unrelated to the argument. You might argue that there is a correlation between the misspellings and logical fallacies, but you offer no evidence, and the fact that you committed this phallusy while spelling everything correctly speaks otherwise.
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I downvote spelling problems immediately. I bet there's a high correlation between fallacies and "can't spell for shit".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]My views on spelling changed dramatically over time. I am able to spell very well (in French) so I used it for moral superiority.
Then I learned and realized that the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination. It's less about intellect and more about education, i.e., privileges and social class. Mastery of a dumb, nonsensical spelling system is no intellectual feat, it's a circus act.
English orthography is also dumb and nonsensical, but I guess this is due to the hybrid nature of the language and the lack of an Academy. But it's also used by elitists for moral superiority, which I find hilarious.
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I always heard that name as "Al McHogan."
Either way, fuck supper.
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That's not how one should use voting on lemmy. If the conclusion happens to be right but the reasoning is faulty, it's still a bad post.
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My views on spelling changed dramatically over time. I am able to spell very well (in French) so I used it for moral superiority.
Then I learned and realized that the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination. It's less about intellect and more about education, i.e., privileges and social class. Mastery of a dumb, nonsensical spelling system is no intellectual feat, it's a circus act.
English orthography is also dumb and nonsensical, but I guess this is due to the hybrid nature of the language and the lack of an Academy. But it's also used by elitists for moral superiority, which I find hilarious.
the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination
I find that difficult to believe, would you happen to remember where you read this? I'm curious to know more about that.
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First Incompleteness Theorem: "Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete; i.e. there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F." (Raatikainen 2020)
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Argument from fallacy is the formal fallacy of analyzing an argument and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, its conclusion must be false.
its conclusion must be false
falseSorry, defenders of irrationality: calling out an invalid argument (without claiming that implies a false conclusion) is not argument from fallacy.
When someone points out your argument is flawed, fix it.
Argument from authority (logic is an authority and we do not recognize its mandate to rule on this website)
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But if you start doing that, where will it end✠You must be a bad person for doing this. No true Lemmy user would do it. Most people don't do this, it must be wrong. Has anyone asked what the admins think?
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Argument from authority (logic is an authority and we do not recognize its mandate to rule on this website)
Good joke: irrational people on this website certainly don't recognize much.
An argument from authority is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) who lacks relevant expertise is used as evidence to support an argument.
Logic is the study of methods for evaluating whether the premises of an argument adequately support its conclusion.
Definition doesn't apply: logic isn't "an authority" capable of bearing "opinion" or "expertise".
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This is a type of ad hominem fallacy because you're downvoting based on something about the speaker that is unrelated to the argument. You might argue that there is a correlation between the misspellings and logical fallacies, but you offer no evidence, and the fact that you committed this phallusy while spelling everything correctly speaks otherwise.
it's not about the speaker, it's about the their past actions
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the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination
I find that difficult to believe, would you happen to remember where you read this? I'm curious to know more about that.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sure! Here's a nice article by Mireille Elchacar, lexicologist and professor at TELUQ university.
The relevant portion:
Le 8 mai 1673, lâAcadĂ©mie française tranche en faveur de lâorthographe savante « qui distingue les gens de Lettres dâavec les Ignorants et les simples femmes ».
My translation:
The 8 of May, 1673, the French Academy decides in favor of a scholarly orthography "which distinguishes literary people from the ignorants and simple women".
Yikes! That's the basis of the "etymologic" or rather pseudo-etymologic orthography of French. The French Academy is still the authority for the French language, a remnant of the Ancient RĂ©gime. To my knowledge, they haven't retracted this statement since and to my judgement they still adhere to it by their actions and decisions today.
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But all of my posts contain logical fallacies!
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I always heard that name as "Al McHogan."
Either way, fuck supper.
Alma Cogan was a popular singer who had died recently when this was written. So kind of a 'too soon?' thing.
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Good joke: irrational people on this website certainly don't recognize much.
An argument from authority is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) who lacks relevant expertise is used as evidence to support an argument.
Logic is the study of methods for evaluating whether the premises of an argument adequately support its conclusion.
Definition doesn't apply: logic isn't "an authority" capable of bearing "opinion" or "expertise".
That's certainly logically true, and as such, I cannot accept it
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That's not how one should use voting on lemmy. If the conclusion happens to be right but the reasoning is faulty, it's still a bad post.
Conversely, if the conclusion was wrong but it added value to the discussion, then it's still a good post.
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But all of my posts contain logical fallacies!
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Even if itâs a good point or funny? Sometimes people type fast and their brains jumble stuff
One must have a respect for their audience. Proofreading takes one person a few seconds, and collectively saves thousands of people time trying to decipher.
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One must have a respect for their audience. Proofreading takes one person a few seconds, and collectively saves thousands of people time trying to decipher.
I think thereâs a balance. If itâs indecipherable, sure, too far. But like I said, if itâs obviously a good contribution, meaning it makes sense, Iâm not gonna downvote just because the person misspelled something. I also think in this case itâs far from being disrespectful to the audience. Plus English isnât everybodyâs first language.
I had a math professor who misspelled so much stuff. âExistanceâ and stuff like that. I really didnât give a fuck though. Found it kinda endearing.
Iâm not really on the defensive btw because I do proofread my comments lol
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I downvote spelling problems immediately. I bet there's a high correlation between fallacies and "can't spell for shit".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I am almost 70 and I some of the time these days I wonder is this English evolving or is it just someone who canât spell etc. It makes my brain hurt.
To make it worse for me my mother was a British war bride who would only let me speak âThe Queenâs Englishâ and made me watch Jeopardy every lunch for about 8 yrs. Sound great? Nope, my mother never taught me the rules. Even though I sounded very smart and had a great command of the English language I could never correct anyone because they would say why and I could not cite the rules. -
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I hate downvote culture. I think itâs worth downvoting if someone is saying something harmful or evil or bad faith. Apart from that, if I donât really like the post, I just ignore it.
