So um, the united states just started another war in the middle east. We're going to need a shit ton more memes to distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring. Thanks in advance...
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Distracting people from what is happening is NOT what you want.
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Bombs are falling in the Middle East, but it is Americans who are in a nightmare? Lol.
I have a hunch the title might have been cynicism.
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Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
I never approved of orange baby, plain and simple.
Kamala was cool though, looking to help people and not deceive them, and I just might have voted for her.
But even though I have no problem with a female president, she would have too many world stage problems with countries and groups that don't respect women at all.
So, seeing both as a risk, why would I have voted for either? Like, why did Pete Buttiguieg drop out?
That's the real question, what forces in play made my dude Pete drop out? I sure as hell would have voted for him!
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind, that those of that didn't vote, was usually because we didn't approve of either candidate?
Life is full of decisions that seemingly only have bad options, but one option was clearly drastically worse than the other.
Not voting because you don't like either candidate despite knowing that one is a crypto fascist with the intention to burn things down is childish and, IMO, means you don't get to say you're not responsible for trump.
Your choice in the election is a contributing factor, you don't get a pass because you sat out. By not voting, you tacitly endorsed trump. It sucks to hear that put in your face, but that's the same message I had to learn after 2016. I know you won't like the message here, but I hope you take the lesson to heart and vote for the less awful candidates (assuming we get to have elections again) instead of taking your ball, going home, and letting a Nazi take power.
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Yeah, certainly. Only an utter imbecile would attempt symmetrical warfare with the U.S.
Asymmetric is the only way to go, and non-attributability would be the ideal.
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That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them.
Sure we all know he's a liar now, but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem.
You can't predict the future, so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Wow.... All I can say right now is that I'm continually amazed at the lengths uninformed voters go to justify being willfully ignorant about basic facts of the candidates....
That theory works great in hindsight, but before the election the orange turd was promising to stop wars, not start them
Why would you ever believe that, knowing the people that surround him, his history of aggression instead of diplomacy, or the support of Russia and Israel, two murderous regimes actively killing people in wars they're waging?
Sure we all know he's a liar now,
If you didn't know he was a consummate liar before the election, you chose to be ignorant of his history. Or did you think the man who lied or misled* the people Over 30,000 times in his first term had a sudden change in behavior?
but before the election, going on their campaigns, how could anyone be sure which track would actually have more bodies in the future in that Trolley Problem
By knowing any of his history? Like, we knew who he was associating with. The people who wrote project 2025 were clear on what they wanted to do. We knew from the previous administration that he would target racial minorities and anyone lgbtq+. He showed last administration that he was basically in bed with Israel, so we knew he would be worse for Gaza.
Anyone actually informing themselves about him would know his horrible past and that he would have been more deadly.
You can't predict the future,
A quote comes to mind: "the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior," and literally everyone paying attention predicted he would start a war of some kind. After all, we knew that in Iran specifically, they were aiming for regime change at the very least. This is an article from less than a year ago, months before the election
On Iran, Project 2025 advocates a markedly more confrontational stance, denigrating diplomacy and the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in favor of barely veiled advocacy for regime change. The document outlines a new security architecture in the Middle East that builds on the Abraham Accords but undermines those efforts by deliberately making no mention of the Palestinian people and promising to defund the Palestinian Authority—a sabotage of any hopes for a Palestinian state. As the past year has tragically demonstrated, continued neglect of the root causes of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will only benefit Iranian proxy recruitment efforts and risk continued violence, including attacks on American troops and installations.
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Iran: With the Iranian nuclear program revived by the scuttling of the JCPOA, Project 2025 would now boost Tehran’s recruitment efforts in the region by deliberately sabotaging any hopes for Palestinian statehood.
And for added relevance to this very article
At a time when the doomsday clock is already set closer to midnight than ever before due to “widespread and growing reliance on nuclear weapons,” Project 2025’s solution is to ramp up the U.S. nuclear arsenal. The United States and the Russian Federation have not been in a more precarious nuclear posture since the end of the Cold War. The lapse of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 2019 and the uncertain future of the New START Treaty, which is set to expire in 2026, further exacerbate tensions and raise concerns about a renewed arms race. In the Middle East, Iran is potentially days away from nuclear weapons capabilities after aggressively stockpiling uranium following the Trump administration’s withdrawal from the JCPOA. In East Asia, China has rapidly expanded its nuclear arsenal and advanced its missile technology, aiming to reach parity with the United States by the mid-2030s. North Korea has continued to enhance its own nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities, conducting frequent tests and increasing the range and precision of its systems.
So we definitely knew what was coming. Anyone saying otherwise is grossly uninformed or lying.
so that's like presenting the Trolley Problem as if the switch is 10 miles before the tracks split.
Maybe if you had a CCTV monitor showing you the split and the people who were tied to the tracks on the other side.
This is just a desperate excuse to justify your choice based on willful ignorance. You don't get to shirk the responsibility of your choice or the consequences thereof.
I know you won't like it, but better to learn the hard lesson now, than repeat it again in the future, right?
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I didn't have TV from 2016 to 2019.
I didn't have Internet from 2016 to 2021.
What's your excuse for 2021 to 2024?
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Has Kamala come out yet to denounce a single one of Trump's Israel policies? Unlike a lot of other Democratic lawmakers, she has yet to publicly condemn the strike on Iran. From what evidence we can actually observe, it seems she supports the current strike. Or at least she doesn't oppose it. There's little reason to think she wouldn't have ordered the exact same type of strike Trump just did. She would spin it as "being the tough cop on the international scene."
Harris has been for the most part quiet about almost all of his policies so far. I can't claim to know her reasons but if I had to speculate it's probably an attempt to save face and not be seen as a sore loser. I'm not a Harris worshipper but I believe whole heartedly that she was the clear "less bad" option. I genuinely cannot comprehend disagreement with that given we're only 6 months into this administration and we've already seen massive international and domestic upheaval and hundreds of thousands of people negatively affected by deviation from typical conduct. For instance, do you think Harris and the Democrats would be pursuing Medicaid and SNAP cuts if they had won instead?
There’s little reason to think she wouldn’t have ordered the exact same type of strike Trump just did. She would spin it as “being the tough cop on the international scene.”
What's your basis for this statement? My basis for believing that she would not do this is the record of her recent Democratic presidential precedessors. Obama and Biden's Iran policies were largely characterized by attempts to deescalate tensions and move towards more normal relations. Of course, that is difficult when allyship with Israel is a cornerstone of US Middle East strategy, but they went about it in markedly different ways than Trump did in his first term and what he's doing now.
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Nope, I was in a different state that day, unscheduled trip.
My wife was admitted to hospital days before the election, but voted anyway because absentee voting is a thing, and something one would assume a voter would look into after being denied the right to vote once before.
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A good chunk of Kamala's platform was also tacitly supporting Trump.
Anything to justify your bad decisions.....
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Distracting people from what is happening is NOT what you want.
But its exactly what will happen
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Bombs are falling in the Middle East, but it is Americans who are in a nightmare? Lol.
You're right, things are just peachy here. Disregard.
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I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.
I really hope the protest/non voters are happy with the outcome they chose. I can't wait to hear them tell me that Harris would have done this too! Anything to justify intentionally causing the suffering of more people....
Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that's what US presidents do.
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Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that's what US presidents do.
Anyway, keep on blaming voters instead of holding the party accountable for its mistakes."Don't blame the voters who elected the president" is the sort of argument I'd expect from someone intentionally ignoring that he bombed nuclear sites.
BoTh SiDeS arguments are stupid and people who make them should be ignored. Like I said, anything to justify your bad choice.
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Yeah, the 3rd party voters are complicit in Trump's actions, as are those who didn't vote in protest.
When one candidate straight up says they'll be a dictator on day one, anything but voting against them is supporting their actions.
When one candidate straight up says they'll be a dictator on day one, anything but voting against them is supporting their actions.
Say it louder for those in the back plugging their ears and saying both sides are the same.
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What’s super weird is that it resembles the war in Iraq but dumber.
After 9/11 Americans were out for blood, for revenge.
This time they were out for blood, democrat blood. Revenge for… being told to stay inside.
I guess every 20 years they realize they hate each other so they outsource the violence?
America is truly that neighbour which has constant domestic drama that the rest of the neighbourhood has to put up with constantly cause they are too nice to shun said neighbour.
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It's liberals like you who let America become a dictatorship when you voted for Genocide Joe last year
Going off your comment I'm guessing you just became politically active in the last few years.
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You're right, things are just peachy here. Disregard.
No but to OP’s point, the only reason why this keeps happening without Americans fighting back is because enough of them have it good enough.
So not peachy, but clearly good enough for a comfortable enough hole in the sand for your head.
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I feel like maybe this was a good move. At the same time I think the orange turd didn't consider the consequences. Like you don't do that and get away with just the one three punches. Iran my try other things to get back at us.
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distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring
I assure you the nightmare is being experienced more acutely and directly by the people being actively bombed.
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distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring
I assure you the nightmare is being experienced more acutely and directly by the people being actively bombed.
Yeah, but do they have memes to distract them?
