Before And After: The Iranian Nuclear Sites Targeted By US Airstrikes
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I thought I could see piles of debris at the bottoms of some slopes in the after pictures which weren't there in the before pictures, but now that I'm looking at them again, I'm no longer sure that what I'm seeing isn't just a difference in the shadows. (Presumably the pictures were taken at different times of the day.) I'm going to edit my original statement.
I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong. I just didn't recognize anything that looked like it. However, I wasn't really awake then either.
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The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.
You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can't distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the "good side" of America.
Just like you can't separate America from it's history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can't separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your "most deadly military's" best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn't what's bad about America, he's just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton's America!
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Using that logic, all countries are like this.
Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn't even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as "national security", and that's the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).
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I thought we needed to use nukes to penetrate their nuclear sites. Either that was a lie or these attacks did not do what Trump is saying it did.
I read they didn't knew if it's going to work or not. They still don't know if it worked. Trump says it worked because he's Trump.
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Using that logic, all countries are like this.
Well some are doing it a bit more in the open than others though… USA really has no shame anymore.
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The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.
I would agree with you.
but after years of propaganda saying that Gaza needs to be killed because of a 2006 election. I think that logic needs to be applied to the country making that propaganda. The US voted for it very recently, no excuses.
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"The administration" is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), "this administration" is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun...
(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently "dancing to the tune of the puppet master" than most of the US's other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)
find me a US President who didn't do/oversaw/allow war crimes?
I'll wait
it's not a just a Trump issue
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You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper...
Gaza had an election in 2006, which is used as a justification for a genocide.
under that logic there's a greater claim to genocide the US.
Double standards
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The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.
Isn't that what the US constantly does other countries?
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The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That's as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide
for the lazy people: Wikipedia - GBU-57A/B MOP
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The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That's as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.
The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.
There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)
Long story short we don't know if these did anything.
Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY
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Gaza had an election in 2006, which is used as a justification for a genocide.
under that logic there's a greater claim to genocide the US.
Double standards
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Directly dismantling democracy. Directly brought terrorists to power. The peace that Israel wanted trampled underfoot and attacked again and again... 7 Oct then caused a backlash... Now they pretend to be the victim... but for the 7th they celebrate anyway...
Ah yes, the calls for genocide against Israel ( and the whole West ) etc were also.... -
The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.
I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.
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You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can't distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the "good side" of America.
Just like you can't separate America from it's history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can't separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your "most deadly military's" best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn't what's bad about America, he's just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton's America!
Don't forget about Russia, they are doing horrible shit all the same. It's not only US imperialism.
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The United states is a terrorist country.
Death from the sky wherever we judge it to be right. It’s some Death Star shit.
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The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.
I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.
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I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.
It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...
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It's a tough one. Even the people who voted for him are mainly guilty of being gullible. Noone is born maga. They get indoctrinated. The gullible believe it, the rest make up all the stories about family political arguments at holiday dinners...
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.
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That’s fairly true of everyone and everything. We are born into a culture and it influences us greatly. I don’t think adults get any kind of a pass because of that. Certainly Americans of voting age have options about what to think and believe, regardless of where they start out.
That's basically victim blaming. You are implying they have a choice to be less gullible? And yeah, it is a large group, the size of it doesn't really matter. The powers that be are taking advantage of the masses for thier own purposes. And they know they are doing it.
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Unless you think about it of course, then you realize in reality actually only one country and its client-state currently goes around bombing other countries it doesn't even border and slaughtering civilians while celebrating it as "national security", and that's the US (and Israel, literal Jewish ISIS).
Which country will take America's place when it falls? America is not the first and while history may not repeat, it often echoes and they won't be the last.
