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You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning

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  • P [email protected]

    You can remove most apps using ADB. Universal Android Debloater is helpful for this, just make sure you read the comments for each app so you dont remove something you need.

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    Have you a link? This sounds like I would need root?

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    • G [email protected]

      Sadly, SailfishOS is region locked. Being from North America, I can't purchase their phones, or use the trial/emulation option, which really sucks because I like a lot of what I'm seeing there.

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      #227

      There are a few happy US users on the forums. Maybe check out what they have to say.

      I'm sure the company is perfectly happy with having these users. AFAIR the reason they don't sell licenses outside EU is that it would add hassle, mostly sales legalities.

      I didn't know you cannot buy the C2 in the USA, but I would recommend an Xperia X10 II or X10 III anyhow.

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        Do you by chance know if WeChat and Facebook messenger work on it?

        Those apps are critical for my work.

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        Check the forums.

        FWIW, Signal works perfectly, WA too.

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        • G [email protected]

          Yeah, I'd be happy if they had an unsupported version, but I get that could cause negative publicity for those who couldn't accept that unsupported means exactly that.

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          Fwiw I use a phone imported from the UK (Nothing Phone 1) in NA without problems so who knows why they won't do this.

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          • T [email protected]

            Not liking Apple for ethical reasons is one thing, but thinking they don’t make good products surprises me. I think the current generation of MacBooks are some of the best computers ever sold.

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            MacBooks are some of the best computers ever sold.

            Yeah, but that's just one generation out of many. For me MacBooks have terrible keyboards (personal preference, I know, but I hate them), had very common issues with battery, terrible reparability and stupid features like the Touch Bar (which they finally removed proving right everyone who said it's dumb). So yeah, new MacBooks have great performance but overall the line was not that great IMHO. Very nice design, good quality, not great usability.

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            • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

              Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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              #231

              IMO, when Google lost most public support, it really started going downhill because the people who wanted to profit the business as much as possible became more determinant than those that were still trying to throttle the company due to ethical considerations. When a company gets criticized for everything it does, its decline increases significantly. Add to that it exists under the US government and how that has completely fallen to corruption.

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              • indibrony@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                I'm looking at a Volla phone https://volla.online/en/

                But I also have no experience of Linux in general yet so I have no idea if this is a good move.

                I just really want to get away from android/apple/windows on all of my devices.

                I want SteamOS for desktop, because quite frankly gaming is all I really use a desktop for anymore.

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                Didn't know volla. Looks cool but expensive.

                I don't think steamos on desktop is a good idea, IIRC it targets specific hardware.

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                • F [email protected]

                  Just use the websites instead of the apps.

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                  #233

                  But then you can’t tap to pay with your phone.

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                  • J [email protected]

                    If a feature is useful people will use it, be it AI or not AI.

                    People will also use it if it's not useful, if it's the default.

                    A friend of mine did a search the other day to find the hour of something, and google's AI lied to her. Top of the page, just completely wrong.

                    Luckily I said, "That doesn't sound right" and checked the official site, where we found the truth.

                    Google is definitely forcing this out, even when it's inferior to other products. Hell, it's inferior to their own, existing product.

                    But people will keep using AI, because it's there, and it's right most of the time.

                    Google sucks. They should be broken up, and their leadership barred from working in tech. We could have had a better future. Instead we have this hallucinatory hellhole.

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                    #234

                    They need a tech ethics board, and people need a license to operate or work in decision-making capacities. Also, anyone above the person's head making an unethical decision loses their license, too. License should be cheap to prevent monopoly, but you have to have one to handle data. Don't have a license. Don't have a company. Plant shitty surveillance without separate, noticeable, succinctly presented agreements that are clear and understandable, with warnings about currently misunderstood uses, then you lose license. First offense.

                    Edit: Also mandatory audits with preformulated and separate, and succint notifications are applied. "This company sells your info to the government and police forces. Any private information, even sexual in nature, can be used against you. Your information will be used by several companies to build your complete psychological profile to sell you things you wouldn't normally purchase and predict crimes you might commit."

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                    • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                      Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                      If this happens, can we please all make a protest or petition with the FCC?

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                      • H [email protected]

                        I don't have Gemini loaded to my phone and I have Google assistant voice command disabled

                        But a few days ago I was having a conversation with my son next to me on the couch with my phone sitting on the arm of the couch.

                        When I asked him a question, gemini answered with a prompt on the screen I have never seen before and haven't since.

                        It still creeps me out

                        I looked up what the prompt for gemini is supposed to lol like and this looked nothing like that. It looked more like a popup dialogue box from a browser but the only browser I use is opera and it is set as default

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                        Yeah a couple of weeks ago Google secretly activated Gemini on every Pixel user's phone. I ran into the same problem, my phone suddenly activated and Gemini popped up interrupting a song that I was playing while I was away from my phone. Ended up screwing up the song and having it repeat over and over and over.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          But then you can’t tap to pay with your phone.

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                          Well then I guess you will have to sell your soul to the devil for those extra seconds of convenience

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                          • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                            Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                            Maybe this gives me a false sense of security but I bought the adguard pro on social stack (I think...). I just turn all of the connections off on gemini, meta and Bixby. Like this

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Just saw there's a sort of large Lemmy degoogle community

                              https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

                              Personally I think it's a good start to just replace Google applications. Organic Maps over Google Maps. Proton Mail/Drive/VPN/Calendar over Google stuff. Firefox and forks over Chrome. Duckduckgo over Google search. After that you can maybe find an old old Google Pixel phone and then start flashing ROMs off XDA forums as practice before you try a newer more expensive phone

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                              Ok!!! Thanks. I've done all that, so I Think I'm degoogling. It's Hard to avoid Android in my country, you risk to be out of communication Networks

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                              • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                                Laughs in eu

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  Maybe this gives me a false sense of security but I bought the adguard pro on social stack (I think...). I just turn all of the connections off on gemini, meta and Bixby. Like this

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                                  Why do you keep Gemini installed? Does it even work offline?

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                                  • privacydingus@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                    Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

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                                    At least so far Samsung is letting me disable Gemini, as I try to do to any bloatware I don't want running in the background.

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                                    • H [email protected]

                                      I don't have Gemini loaded to my phone and I have Google assistant voice command disabled

                                      But a few days ago I was having a conversation with my son next to me on the couch with my phone sitting on the arm of the couch.

                                      When I asked him a question, gemini answered with a prompt on the screen I have never seen before and haven't since.

                                      It still creeps me out

                                      I looked up what the prompt for gemini is supposed to lol like and this looked nothing like that. It looked more like a popup dialogue box from a browser but the only browser I use is opera and it is set as default

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                                      Iirc internal browsers for apps default to a system browser not to your chosen one

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                                      • K [email protected]

                                        Apple isn't gonna have your back on this either you minds well run to foss forever if this is gonna be your Hill to die on

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                                        minds well

                                        /c/boneappletea

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                                        • ezterry@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

                                          At least so far Samsung is letting me disable Gemini, as I try to do to any bloatware I don't want running in the background.

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                                          I have a Pixel phone im bout to throw in the river

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