Netanyahu Says It’s Antisemitic For Israeli Soldiers To Describe Their Own Atrocities
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It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
Always been.
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Netanyahu says it's antisemitic
Learn a new trick, fuckface. This one doesn't work anymore. People are going to start responding to accusations like this with "so what?" because the word has been watered down to such a ridiculous degree that it is no longer meaningful.
And that's really dangerous because it provides cover for actual antisemitism against Jewish people.
It's all they have to hide behind.
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at this point I wish I owned a crutch factory that produced outstanding crutches. I would make a killing selling them to Israelis.
And these fuck sticks are all surprised pikachu face that anti-semitism is on the rise world wide. Hell even here in Canada you have people spray painting Jewish schools, businesses, and what have you. The largest Jewish school here in Toronto has 24/7 police presence they even have a damn SWAT Truck parked outside the school. But as soon as a Pro Palestine protest happens in Toronto oh boy is the Jewish community quick to condemn it and then act surprised when people tell them to fuck off.
And yes I'm well aware that not all Jewish people support what Israel is doing but it gets drowned out by those that would love nothing more than to wipe the Palestine people off the face of the earth and claim their land.
And it's not like these people learned nothing from the Holocaust, oh no dear reader they learned plenty. They learned how to commit genocide and use those that were murdered in the Holocaust as props to proudly say "it's our turn now."
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I spilled my milk and was enraged by the anti-semitism.
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"Zionism:
you made your mum live inside the washing machine
and she got dizzy from the spinning which made her vomit and you point at that vomit and call it antisemitism"... from "Mum Does The Washing" by Joshua Idehen.
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at this point I wish I owned a crutch factory that produced outstanding crutches. I would make a killing selling them to Israelis.
And these fuck sticks are all surprised pikachu face that anti-semitism is on the rise world wide. Hell even here in Canada you have people spray painting Jewish schools, businesses, and what have you. The largest Jewish school here in Toronto has 24/7 police presence they even have a damn SWAT Truck parked outside the school. But as soon as a Pro Palestine protest happens in Toronto oh boy is the Jewish community quick to condemn it and then act surprised when people tell them to fuck off.
And yes I'm well aware that not all Jewish people support what Israel is doing but it gets drowned out by those that would love nothing more than to wipe the Palestine people off the face of the earth and claim their land.
And it's not like these people learned nothing from the Holocaust, oh no dear reader they learned plenty. They learned how to commit genocide and use those that were murdered in the Holocaust as props to proudly say "it's our turn now."
they are not shocked about antisemitism, antisemitism is the goal of Zionism because it gives them pretext to do what they want
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This holocaust denialism. One of the major and specific problems with the nazis was their attitude regarding jews. They didn’t have a problem with “minorities”. They used long standing conspiratorial intolerance to consolidate power into the hands of their minority.
I think you missed my point. For one, Nazis didn't only want to exterminate Jews. Roma, Sinti, homosexuals, communists and disabled people (just to name a few other groups) were also on the chopping block.
But my main point here was that if the holocaust wasn't about killing Jews but instead about exterminating the French, it would have been just as horrible and Nazis would have been just as horrible.
You are arguing whether or not the existence of a word “still is justified”. Words don’t need to be justified or not; they go in or out of favor based on utility.
No, I'm not arguing about the justification of the existence of the word, but of the applicability of the concept. Slavery is still a word and we still all know the word, no question about that, but at least in Europe, legalized slavery isn't really a concept we need to put a lot of political effort into, because it doesn't exist any more.
The concept is not applicable to today. We don't need to have laws governing how slaves are treated, how the process of freeing slaves go, how former slaves are treated in society. We don't even need to have discussions about that topic, because there's no legalized slavery any more.
And in the same vein I think it's justified to think about whether Jews really still need this protected status over e.g. Muslims or refugees. At least over here, it's not so rare that e.g. refugee homes are set on fire by right-wing extremists. All sorts of Jewish institutions in my city have a permanent police guard stationed outside of them to protect them from potential attacks, even though they haven't really happened in decades, while mosques or refugee homes usually don't have that.
A similar thing is happening on a grander scale with Israel and its neighbours. They've been squashing Palestine under their heels for decades, but in false anti-antisemitism the governments of countries like Germany have been agreeing with everything Israel's government does, because Jews are the better minority and Muslims are sub-human, or something like that.
So my point is not "does the word antisemitism has a place in the dictionary", but instead "do Jews need this higher protection status over everyone else, or is there maybe another group that could need protection as well/more?"
Slavery is still a word and we still all know the word, no question about that, but at least in Europe, legalized slavery isn’t really a concept we need to put a lot of political effort into, because it doesn’t exist any more.
We don’t need to have laws governing how slaves are treated, how the process of freeing slaves go, how former slaves are treated in society. We don’t even need to have discussions about that topic, because there’s no legalized slavery any more.
I guess you have never heard of the UK's 2015 Modern Slavery Act ("An Act to make provision about slavery, servitude and forced or compulsory labour and about human trafficking, including provision for the protection of victims; to make provision for an Independent Anti-slavery Commissioner; and for connected purposes").
If you web search for any organization or company that's active in the UK, you will find they have a bunch of disclosures and policies relating to slavery. Here are some randoms ones to save your fingers from working too hard:
the NHS,
Apple,
Levi'sThere is movement towards EU-wide anti-slavery legislation.
And in the same vein I think it’s justified to think about whether Jews really still need this protected status over e.g. Muslims or refugees. At least over here, it’s not so rare that e.g. refugee homes are set on fire by right-wing extremists. All sorts of Jewish institutions in my city have a permanent police guard stationed outside of them to protect them from potential attacks, even though they haven’t really happened in decades, while mosques or refugee homes usually don’t have that.
Presumably you have spent
zeromoments looking into the validity of the claim about no attack in decades, just like the one about slavery being a non-issue. I proceed on the premise that you are ignorant and incorrect."Anti semitism" describes a unique and specific form of bigotry which is deeply entrenched in Europe and elsewhere which is influenced by European culture. It's different than anti-black racism, orientalism, or islamiphobia to name a few. They all "deserve" their own words to describe the nuances.
Obviously you should do something about people's houses being set on fire. Jews are are certainly not the primary barrier. I bet if you were to look at people who are in positions to actually do anything, you'll find most of them are Christians. And do you think those cops who are paid to stand around all day as street furniture would really change anything for the better if they were re-deployed? They'd probably assist the arsonists.
Israel is a criminal enterprise from top to bottom. It has many advocates, the most effective and powerful of whom are not jewish, who conduct themselves in heinous fashion. Israel was created after WW2 by europeans who were semi-regretful about the holocaust, but were happy to not have a bunch of poor jewish refugees returning home. And by Europeans who didn't regard the arab or muslim inhabitants of Palestine as human beings. Europe and the US have been in active support and benefiting from Israel's crimes for decades.
We need to be able to use our brains to get through the swamp of propaganda without falling back on old bigotries. Blaming jews for structural problems is one of the core tenants of nazisim. I don't know if you are a nazi or you've just picked up a bit of it through culture, or something in between.
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^ That's antisemitic!
Hey! That's antisemitic!
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Holocaust admission AND Holocaust denial have now both been deemed antisemitic by the ethno-Fascist nation state that claims to represent all Jewish People.
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I, as a random Jew, am not responsible for the actions of the Jewish terrorists in Israel, or any other Jew for that matter. Just like a random Muslim isn’t responsible for the actions of Hamas. It’s pretty insulting to suggest otherwise.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The greatest antisemitism there is, is trying to link the most depraved nation state of the XXI century (so far) and its actions, to all Jewish People, both by its implying that any actions commited by that nation state no matter how depraved and violent are How Jews Behave, and because such "representation by a nation state" would only be possible if "all Jews are the same", both things which are extreme racist takes.
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It's just a common religious tactic. When they do bad things, they get angry at anyone who tried to call them out on it. Even if it's their own people, and they aren't doing it on purpose. Is the hate being supported by their religion? Yes? Then it's religious hate, and needs to be stopped.
Does it matter if it's one religion? Nope, they all do this shit. Radical christians, radical hindu, radical buddhists, etc... Call them out on their bullshit and hate, and you're the bigot. Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This kind of shit is a carbon copy of how the Nazis used claims of people being "against the Aryan race" to deflect criticism of the actions of the Nazis.
I think this is religion being weaponized to support the extreme depravity of an ethno-Fascist ideology, rather than an inherent drive in that religion.
In other words, the problem with Religions is not them having an inherent tendency for this kind of thing, is that they are extremely easy to capture and use to support even the most depraved behaviours, being capable of excusing actions well beyond what most other prepackaged belief systems are able to successfully excuse.
In summary, I don't think Religion is a driver of this kind of shit, I think it's an enabler.
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That's Bloodlust... They're ORCS!
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It's so sinister. Latching on to the real history of blood libel to not only reinforce the idea that liberal media lies as a matter of routine, but to simultaneously use that reinforcement to build up the idea that liberals are either secretly antisemetic or too led around by the nose by propaganda to realize their antisemitism.
Of course it's deeply antisemitic for netanyahu to do this. It's also going to be extremely effective.
All those liberals going along with the idea that it's possible to discriminate in a positive way only have themselves to blame when it turned out that their "positive" support of those they perceive as representatives of an ethnicity whom they (the liberals) view as "victims" as whole (i.e. all individuals of that ethnicity, rather than just the actual victims) was just racist prejudice and discrimination and stupidly easy to abuse to support ethnic cleansing (as long as those doing the murdering are from a "victim" race).
Support for any kind of ethnic-wide assumptions about people and different standards of judgement and actions towards them based on their ethnicity, is the very same kind of view of one's fellow human beings as the Nazis had, just with different "good" races and "bad" races.
People should be judged on and treated based on what they support and what they do, not the ethnicity they were born into.
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I really wish genociders would stop calling criticism of genocide "antisemitism". it just nullifies the impact of the word. also as I have said many times before, Palestinians are semites
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They should publish a static list of all things anti-semitic because it seems confusing.
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It’s really not.
I disagree.
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Slavery is still a word and we still all know the word, no question about that, but at least in Europe, legalized slavery isn’t really a concept we need to put a lot of political effort into, because it doesn’t exist any more.
We don’t need to have laws governing how slaves are treated, how the process of freeing slaves go, how former slaves are treated in society. We don’t even need to have discussions about that topic, because there’s no legalized slavery any more.
I guess you have never heard of the UK's 2015 Modern Slavery Act ("An Act to make provision about slavery, servitude and forced or compulsory labour and about human trafficking, including provision for the protection of victims; to make provision for an Independent Anti-slavery Commissioner; and for connected purposes").
If you web search for any organization or company that's active in the UK, you will find they have a bunch of disclosures and policies relating to slavery. Here are some randoms ones to save your fingers from working too hard:
the NHS,
Apple,
Levi'sThere is movement towards EU-wide anti-slavery legislation.
And in the same vein I think it’s justified to think about whether Jews really still need this protected status over e.g. Muslims or refugees. At least over here, it’s not so rare that e.g. refugee homes are set on fire by right-wing extremists. All sorts of Jewish institutions in my city have a permanent police guard stationed outside of them to protect them from potential attacks, even though they haven’t really happened in decades, while mosques or refugee homes usually don’t have that.
Presumably you have spent
zeromoments looking into the validity of the claim about no attack in decades, just like the one about slavery being a non-issue. I proceed on the premise that you are ignorant and incorrect."Anti semitism" describes a unique and specific form of bigotry which is deeply entrenched in Europe and elsewhere which is influenced by European culture. It's different than anti-black racism, orientalism, or islamiphobia to name a few. They all "deserve" their own words to describe the nuances.
Obviously you should do something about people's houses being set on fire. Jews are are certainly not the primary barrier. I bet if you were to look at people who are in positions to actually do anything, you'll find most of them are Christians. And do you think those cops who are paid to stand around all day as street furniture would really change anything for the better if they were re-deployed? They'd probably assist the arsonists.
Israel is a criminal enterprise from top to bottom. It has many advocates, the most effective and powerful of whom are not jewish, who conduct themselves in heinous fashion. Israel was created after WW2 by europeans who were semi-regretful about the holocaust, but were happy to not have a bunch of poor jewish refugees returning home. And by Europeans who didn't regard the arab or muslim inhabitants of Palestine as human beings. Europe and the US have been in active support and benefiting from Israel's crimes for decades.
We need to be able to use our brains to get through the swamp of propaganda without falling back on old bigotries. Blaming jews for structural problems is one of the core tenants of nazisim. I don't know if you are a nazi or you've just picked up a bit of it through culture, or something in between.
I think you might be falling into reflexive attack patterns instead of actually trying to understand what I am saying.
What I am saying is that all minorities should have the necessary protections, and that Jews are used for "non-Nazi-washing" by a lot of the right-wing speakers.
It's a common argument to claim that one isn't a Nazi because he's for the Israelis mass-killing Muslims in Palestine.
I don’t know if you are a nazi or you’ve just picked up a bit of it through culture, or something in between.
Yep. Sadly only a reflexive attack pattern instead of actual trying to understand what was said.
I have always voted for left parties. I am for human rights for everyone. I am for rights for all minorities including Muslims and Jews. I am pro immigration. I am for trans/LGBTQ+ rights and for abortion rights. I am against genocides being committed regardless of who is committing them. According to you I am a Nazi, totally fits the bill, correct?
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If you generalize the stance away from Jews, "foreigners should go back to their home countries" is a very popular talking point for right-wing politicians, right-wing extremists and nazis.
So it's quite beyond me that anyone would be surprised that they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority that has a country that they can send them back to.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]they apply the exact same argument to Jews as they use for pretty much every other minority
I think the glaring note is how they consider "Jew" a minority, despite largely being white.
Who does and doesn't qualify as white is a constantly moving goalpost, depending on the attitudes of the current regime.
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It is actually impressive that the leader of Israel is the bad guy
I always find it weird when I remember that Netanyahu is just some dude from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
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Radical Buddhists
Now, I am not going to disagree here because I don't know a lot about it, but the only radical Buddhist I ever heard about was a dude who set himself on fire to protest the Vietnamese government oppressing Buddhists in the 60s and monks in China fighting against tyranical rulers that would have exterminated them. Have any radical Buddhists ever hurt others for not believing in their system of faith?
Look into the ongoing Rohingya genocide.
