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Supreme Court to decide whether ISPs must disconnect users accused of piracy

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  • I [email protected]

    "the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

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    Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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    • tonytins@pawb.socialT [email protected]
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      This is how you get a new darknet.

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      • R [email protected]

        Don't give them ideas. Next they'll cut the blood stream to your brain.

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        Pretty sure they've already done that by not regulating social media better

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        • R [email protected]

          Several countries require proof of ID to purchase a SIM card.

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          Ah yes I keep forgetting about all of those countries that the US Supreme Court has jurisdiction over

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            Yes we are all training our LLMs. Perfectly legal.

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            Thanks for reminding me that I need to go train my LLM on the new season of Yellowjackets

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              All public wifi will be disconnected pretty quickly.

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                Life depends more on accessing things online. This would just be punishing people beyond the scope of the case against people.

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                  This is how you get a new darknet.

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                  Yep there is no way they can block I2P, they have to block all of it.

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                  • I [email protected]

                    "the internet" is a necessity and requirement to function in society. You can't be denied access to it anymore, it would be disproportionate.

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                    Exactly, sure disconnect customers from the Internet if they use it for entertainment... but once they use it to earn the income that pays their bills, it becomes questionable... and once it is in practice required to be a citizen, at the local, national or supra national level then it becomes a totally different question, to which the answer is basically no, you can't disconnect someone otherwise you remove their citizenship.

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                    • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                      i just use mullvad on my router and port forward directly there

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                      That still won’t work. Either the forwarded port is getting blocked by Mullvad (which is bad) or you’re bypassing Mullvad to use the forwarded port (which is really bad). You’ve essentially roped yourself into a double-NAT situation, where your router has a forwarded port but the router behind yours (the VPN server, which you have no control over) doesn’t.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        Several countries require proof of ID to purchase a SIM card.

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                        I don't think eSIM providers do but I admit I didn't check. It'd be even more convenient, no need to leave your home to switch.

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                          let's all fall on our sword to make sure Disney never loses a potential subscriber for Marvel Wars. Truly, we are defending the interests of the people here

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                          • V [email protected]

                            Pretty sure I have read somewhere that it is now also an official necessity in Germany

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                            I think in Finland it is a basic utility like power and water. It is certainly priced like that.

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                              or even water

                              Already did.

                              We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.

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                              Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can't seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support "industry" and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).

                              I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they're being logically consistent but I can't seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.

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                                Oh, so like they do in the uncivilized middle-east?
                                Naaaah

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                                Given the US is ran by the New Fuhrer? I could see this being used against criticism of leadership or anything else resembling free will and not just piracy. I also find it sad that the day the US will probably die as a free country and turn into a dictatorship, is the same day it gained its independence in the first place.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  I keep my seedbox in the planter at the coffee shop down the road with free WiFi.

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                                  Epic lol

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                                  • kevincox@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                                    Then they'll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.

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                                    I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

                                    Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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                                      According to the article this is the USA. How on brand.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        I hope that this doesn't come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).

                                        Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that's untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.

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                                        In China there is no such thing as a throwaway number (at least outside of black markets). All numbers require ID to acquire.

                                        For the US it would be a bit different. VOIP numbers do exist but they are often also blocked by services (this isn't black and white but there are services that will quite accurately map numbers into ranges like home/cell/business/VoIP).

                                        But of course the assumption would be that if they start requiring phone numbers for WiFi access the logical next step would be to make all numbers traceable to humans.

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                                        • dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                          You should already be underground

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                                          Instructions unclear, now sitting in basement.

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