Gaza: Evidence points to Israel’s continued use of starvation to inflict genocide against Palestinians
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The number of deaths by starvation in Gaza are small. If you want to see what famine and death looks like, check out what happened over the last year in Sudan.
The number of deaths per month has been falling in Gaza for more than a year now.
The situation is bad, but nowhere near comparable to the Holocaust.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're confusing "not being counted because the Gaza Hospitals were they did the counting were destroyed by Israel" with "not occurring".
There was a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal about 6 months ago that back then estimated around 200k Palestinian dead even while the official figures remained stuck around the 50k mark since about 3 months into the invasion (when most Hospitals in Gaza were destroyed).
You're parroting Zionist propaganda and I don't really know if it's because you yourself have fallen for it or some other, malevolent, reasons.
(Given that you're doing this under an article about how Amnesty International gathered evidence that Israel is "using starvation of civilians as a weapon of war against Palestinians", I know which of those two possibilities I would bet on)
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There have been misleading reports, including from Amnesty International.
Several reports and predictions about famine in Gaza turned out to be false. Tens of thousands were predicted a year ago. Only a few dozen died from starvation since.
Only a few dozen died from starvation since.
i really doubt this
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For crying out loud, stop trying to score political points in US politics when murdering brown people and helping Israel do so is the ultimate bipartisan subject in the US.
You can find differences between the two "sides" in US politics on some subjects (though often the distance is fag paper thin). but in this they're on the same side, with at most the only difference being that the Democract establishment would rather Israel was a bit more quiet in their mass murdering.
I did not say a word about democrats, the person trying to bring up differences or indifferences between the two parties IN the US are you.
I only talked about Trump.
Please work on your reading comprehension. Thanks.
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Only a few dozen died from starvation since.
i really doubt this
66 children died. During famines children are most endangered and always the vast majority of deaths.
I will give you a pro Palestinian biased source.
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You're confusing "not being counted because the Gaza Hospitals were they did the counting were destroyed by Israel" with "not occurring".
There was a study published in the Lancet Medical Journal about 6 months ago that back then estimated around 200k Palestinian dead even while the official figures remained stuck around the 50k mark since about 3 months into the invasion (when most Hospitals in Gaza were destroyed).
You're parroting Zionist propaganda and I don't really know if it's because you yourself have fallen for it or some other, malevolent, reasons.
(Given that you're doing this under an article about how Amnesty International gathered evidence that Israel is "using starvation of civilians as a weapon of war against Palestinians", I know which of those two possibilities I would bet on)
That Lancet article was not peer reviewed and only an estimate, that turned out to be incorrect.
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Evidence gathered by Amnesty International demonstrates how over a month since the introduction of its militarized aid distribution system, Israel has continued to use starvation of civilians as a weapon of war against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip and to deliberately impose conditions of life calculated to bring about their physical destruction as part of its ongoing genocide.
Heartbreaking testimonies gathered from medical staff, parents of children hospitalized for malnutrition and displaced Palestinians struggling to survive paint a horrifying picture of acute levels of starvation and desperation in Gaza. Their accounts provide further evidence of the catastrophic suffering caused by Israel’s ongoing restrictions on life-saving aid and its deadly militarized aid scheme coupled with mass forced displacement, relentless bombardment and destruction of life-sustaining infrastructure.
“While the eyes of the world were diverted to the recent hostilities between Israel and Iran, Israel’s genocide has continued unabated in Gaza, including through the infliction of conditions of life that have created a deadly mix of hunger and disease pushing the population past breaking point,” said Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International.
In the month following Israel’s imposition of a militarized “‘aid” scheme run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), hundreds of Palestinians have been killed and thousands injured either near militarized distribution sites or en route to humanitarian aid convoys.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
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I did not say a word about democrats, the person trying to bring up differences or indifferences between the two parties IN the US are you.
I only talked about Trump.
Please work on your reading comprehension. Thanks.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, right, it's because you're wholly apolitical and concerned above all with the plight of Palestinians that under an article about Evidence pointing to Israel's continued used of Starvation to inflict Genocide on Palestinians you felt the need to explicitly make it about Trump and mentioned no other of the many supporters and enablers of Israel and its Genocide
Go pull the other one.
If you weren't trying to bring in your pet peeve in American politics you would've just said "America" (since the whole fucking political mainstream there are Genocide enablers) or, even better, mention all of the most egregious supporters of Israel and its Genocide: America, Britain and Germany (in all of which, curiously, the whole fucking political mainstream are Genocide enablers).
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Who’s paying you to say this bullshit, do you have no heart, do you see how it can keep on going and that they can pump those numbers up as long as this war is going on, it’s not too late for it to equal one whole holocaust since that is the baseline for atrocity for you
I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
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That Lancet article was not peer reviewed and only an estimate, that turned out to be incorrect.
"The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal"
(Source)
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
wrote last edited by [email protected]From your own link:
"This data set, which includes only official deaths in which identification could be confirmed"Who did most of the counting and identification? The Gazan Hospitals that Israel blew up.
Corpses shoved to mass graves by IDF soldiers (who have even posted photos and videos of doing it) don't get counted, much less "identified". And don't get me started op those burried under the rubble of bombed buildings, especially once the Israelis started targetting ambulances and rescue services.
That kind of shit is like mid Nazi Holocaust claiming there were no deaths in Auchwitz, since the Nazis didn't care to keep track of the identity of those they killed hence the count of "official deaths in which identification could be confirmed" was zero.
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From your own link:
"This data set, which includes only official deaths in which identification could be confirmed"Who did most of the counting and identification? The Gazan Hospitals that Israel blew up.
Corpses shoved to mass graves by IDF soldiers (who have even posted photos and videos of doing it) don't get counted, much less "identified". And don't get me started op those burried under the rubble of bombed buildings, especially once the Israelis started targetting ambulances and rescue services.
That kind of shit is like mid Nazi Holocaust claiming there were no deaths in Auchwitz, since the Nazis didn't care to keep track of the identity of those they killed hence the count of "official deaths in which identification could be confirmed" was zero.
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
Well, for starters, they were blocked off on all sides. Not everyone can afford to move anyway.
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
"Nothing ever happens"
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because israel is the occupying force who believe the whole land was given to them by god.
If they leave they will never be allowed to come back
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66 children died. During famines children are most endangered and always the vast majority of deaths.
I will give you a pro Palestinian biased source.
The exact number of death in holocust only happened after nazis was defeated. You would have been a holocust denier if you was living during that time
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
Comparisons and metaphors are not equivalency there is no denying the similarity between the tactic used by Nazis and the IDF. A genocide also don't have to be fast, Israel is a sadistic terrorist state that enjoy slow death of Palestinians as people and as an identity
The Nazis systematically carried out mass shootings, gas chamber exterminations, and ghettos to erase entire communities, while the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) have conducted mass bombings, airstrikes, and ground assaults in Gaza that have devastated neighborhoods and caused tens of thousands of civilian deaths, including women and children. Where Nazis used ghettos to confine and starve populations, Israel enforces a blockade on Gaza, restricting essential supplies like food, medicine, and fuel, resulting in widespread suffering and death. The Nazis aimed to annihilate entire groups through industrialized killing; similarly, many Israeli soldiers and observers have described their actions in Gaza as indiscriminate and brutal, with some soldiers even admitting they felt like Nazis during operations, targeting civilians and destroying whole neighborhoods. Although the methods differ—mass shootings and gas chambers versus aerial bombardment and siege
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I didn’t bring up the Holocaust, especially not as a baseline. The situation is Gaza is horrible and needs to change. War crimes are likely happening and possibly crimes against humanity.
The situation not remotely equal to the Holocaust though.
The number of deaths per month in Gaza has been declining for over a year. Remember that gunmen with small arms managed to kill over 1000 people on one day October 7th in Israel. The IDF is heavily armed with advanced weaponry and could easily kill tens of thousands per day, if they wanted to.
The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still bad, but has slowly been improving recently.
Domestically the Netanyahu government is under growing pressure to end the war. Also in Gaza the protests against Hamas continued fighting is growing. The plans for relocating Gaza‘s population have gotten no traction or progress. International pressure, negotiations, and diplomacy are busy as well.
All of this points to a better future, not an imminent Holocaust.
Equivalences to the Holocaust are at best nonfactual incitement, at worst antisemitic Holocaust denial.
The people of Gaza deserve a life in peace, liberty, and prosperity.
There's no war. There wasn't any war going on. What happens in Israel is a country having de facto colonies and bloody repression of an uprising.
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Unfortunately the mods removed it but I asked why this is still relevant, as Israel has given them several opportunities to leave and provided sources
Would you be saying the same thing if it was Russia "offering" for Ukrainians to just leave their home?
More importantly, where do you think those 2 million people should go? Who will house and feed them? Israel sure hasn't offered to do it.
Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to leave even for those who want to?
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I did not say a word about democrats, the person trying to bring up differences or indifferences between the two parties IN the US are you.
I only talked about Trump.
Please work on your reading comprehension. Thanks.
The point Aceticon is making is that it doesn't really matter who the US president is when Israel is concerned.
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Would you be saying the same thing if it was Russia "offering" for Ukrainians to just leave their home?
More importantly, where do you think those 2 million people should go? Who will house and feed them? Israel sure hasn't offered to do it.
Do you have any idea how hard it actually is to leave even for those who want to?
the difference here is that gaza is already completely destroyed. It's basically unlivable. Maybe cut your losses instead of holding onto literal rubble
