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i wonder how dangerous van life really is
well driving is one of the most dangerous things you can do, but if you avoid roads with significant traffic and go slow it might be decently safe
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You are ofc aware that even if we successfully get rid of capitalism, we can't get rid of having to work, right?
what precisely do you think robots exist for?
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what precisely do you think robots exist for?
They don't, not in the way you are implying
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I feel you.
Let me play devil's advocate tho and say:
You can still do this if you really want to and you have at least double the life expectancy. I think we have become too good at entertainment and have collectively fried our dopamine receptors with instant reward, therefore making mundane work unbearable.Nah. I still like mundane work when its for people i care about. When there are people i care about.
It's the capitalism and petty tyrannies that do it.
Not the work.
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You are ofc aware that even if we successfully get rid of capitalism, we can't get rid of having to work, right?
But the way we work could change.
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Nah. I still like mundane work when its for people i care about. When there are people i care about.
It's the capitalism and petty tyrannies that do it.
Not the work.
I can definitely get behind this. It also makes me feel good about myself to help people I like.
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But the way we work could change.
This is the winner for me.
I'm a manager, and I do my best to make things fulfilling, productive, physically and psychologically safe, and minimally stressful. I'm not the capitalist, so I don't have full control. But if those of us closer to the ground try to make the way we work more bearable, it can have an impact on the immediate surroundings.
But yeah, we do need to fix the overarching system, since we don't have full control in this one.
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Just stop lying in general. If the people around you are invested in some fake reality its probably not good for you and youre better off.
I'm with you on this. I generally disfavor candidates that are clearly telling me what they think I want to hear. I used to favor candidates who mentioned "I gotta get paid." Unfortunately, the new boss does not like that, so I gotta ditch that
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I can definitely get behind this. It also makes me feel good about myself to help people I like.
Yeah. Work can actually be pretty cool. Like, yes, id usually rather be having an orgasm from injecting cheesecake and a few grams of lsd directly into relevant places, but even if i coukd fo that all the time, id still want a little variety.
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This is the winner for me.
I'm a manager, and I do my best to make things fulfilling, productive, physically and psychologically safe, and minimally stressful. I'm not the capitalist, so I don't have full control. But if those of us closer to the ground try to make the way we work more bearable, it can have an impact on the immediate surroundings.
But yeah, we do need to fix the overarching system, since we don't have full control in this one.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Right. We'd still need to build houses, but it could be a thing you do with your friends for fun, because building stuff is fun and if it wasnt, kids wouldnt play with legos or sand castles. Then you watch/help the new residents move in. Maybe compete in a local construction crew league if you still need hierarchy and ego motivation.
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what precisely do you think robots exist for?
To pass butter.
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well driving is one of the most dangerous things you can do, but if you avoid roads with significant traffic and go slow it might be decently safe
i was thinking more about robbers and general nasty people trying to fuck you for what you have (including the van itself), but we probably live in very different places.
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They don't, not in the way you are implying
what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they're filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we've built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
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what are you on about? ever look at a modern factory? they're filled with robots that do enough work to replace 10 people.
obviously under capitalism this work just goes into making rich people richer, which is why we need to get rid of capitalism so these fancy robots we've built can actually let us live chill lives with minimal required human labour.
In order to replace all work you would need generic purpose robots, hence my line about what you are implying.
Even with all the automation we have now, people still work.
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what precisely do you think robots exist for?
We do not exist in a world with technology sufficient to entirely eliminate labor. Even highly automated industry like in the PRC, labor-power is still paramount for production. A transition to socialism can allow us to better direct production consciously, rather than letting the eldritch god capital decide everything based on profitability, but we will not be able to eliminate labor, only center it, rather than capital.
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I feel you.
Let me play devil's advocate tho and say:
You can still do this if you really want to and you have at least double the life expectancy. I think we have become too good at entertainment and have collectively fried our dopamine receptors with instant reward, therefore making mundane work unbearable.Where does this myth come from?
https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2022/08/conversation-old-age-is-not-a-modern-phenomenon.php
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Where does this myth come from?
https://sc.edu/uofsc/posts/2022/08/conversation-old-age-is-not-a-modern-phenomenon.php
I know that life expectancy was mostly low because of infant mortality. Still the advancements in medicine cannot be denied.
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I feel you.
Let me play devil's advocate tho and say:
You can still do this if you really want to and you have at least double the life expectancy. I think we have become too good at entertainment and have collectively fried our dopamine receptors with instant reward, therefore making mundane work unbearable.Ehh, it is not that our dopamine receptors are fried. We are all wired to seek out information. But most of what we get is starving us for actual useful information so we have to wade through an endless sea of slop. The "instant gratification" is largely us not wanting to deal with the bullshit and get straight to what is useful.
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In order to replace all work you would need generic purpose robots, hence my line about what you are implying.
Even with all the automation we have now, people still work.
are you being intentionally obtuse? yes obviously we don't have androids that can do ALL the work for us, but we have robots that can do a hell of a lot of work for us, and especially the laborious and monotonous work.
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If by vibe for the rest of the time you mean constantly watch for various forms of life threatening danger. Then sure.
Still a better time than constantly watching out for Manager Mark.
Yeah, or maybe "rest of the time" is literally when you're sleeping, because you spent 16 hours searching for berries, with maybe an hour or two nap when the sun was high. Life was certainly not easier a few hundred years ago, whether you lived in some community or were nomadic or whatever. Wherever it was, it was work, and it's work now, except where my work used to benefit me and my family and perhaps my community, now it buys some dude a yacht, and a private jet, and some wineries in Napa Valley. But I get to watch Netflix, so it's a fair trade.
