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Can you believe all those wildfires in [your country here]?

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  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

    In fact, they haven’t voted majority D since, you guessed it, the civil rights act was signed.

    By state, that's clearly untrue. Vermont and Massachusetts and Minnesota and Oregon would be blood-red if the split was purely racial.

    This is a very regionalized phenomenon and heavily predicated on the way governors and state legislatures have historically dictated enfranchisement.

    they are actively choosing this every election cycle

    In 2008, Obama enjoyed a slight majority of support over McCain among white voters. And that's without discussing the landslide support he saw in the Midwest relative to Clinton.

    There's also a strong youth vote trend that favors progressive politicians, even (perhaps especially) among white voters. Meanwhile, older Black and Asian and Hispanic voters lean conservative relative to their ethnic mean.

    Even then, voter participation in the US is abysmal - hoovering in the 50-70% range. To crib from Beto O'Rourke's favorite lines, America isn't a conservative country, its a non-voting country. White people aren't choosing, any more than their colored peers. They are having their politicians pre-selected and force-fed to them by a handful of wealthy, ideological radicals. This leads to some of the worst approval ratings for elected representatives in the world.

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    Your fact posting makes me feel what I imagine people feel like at a revivalist church. Preach on UnderpantsWeevil.

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    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

      In fact, they haven’t voted majority D since, you guessed it, the civil rights act was signed.

      By state, that's clearly untrue. Vermont and Massachusetts and Minnesota and Oregon would be blood-red if the split was purely racial.

      This is a very regionalized phenomenon and heavily predicated on the way governors and state legislatures have historically dictated enfranchisement.

      they are actively choosing this every election cycle

      In 2008, Obama enjoyed a slight majority of support over McCain among white voters. And that's without discussing the landslide support he saw in the Midwest relative to Clinton.

      There's also a strong youth vote trend that favors progressive politicians, even (perhaps especially) among white voters. Meanwhile, older Black and Asian and Hispanic voters lean conservative relative to their ethnic mean.

      Even then, voter participation in the US is abysmal - hoovering in the 50-70% range. To crib from Beto O'Rourke's favorite lines, America isn't a conservative country, its a non-voting country. White people aren't choosing, any more than their colored peers. They are having their politicians pre-selected and force-fed to them by a handful of wealthy, ideological radicals. This leads to some of the worst approval ratings for elected representatives in the world.

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      Your link showed Obama receiving a maximum of 44% of the white vote. That is not a majority.

      1964-present:
      https://decolonialatlas.wordpress.com/2020/11/06/white-voters-1964-2020/

      Notice the shift...

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        Cross post from a similar post.

        https://vger.to/lemmy.ca/comment/18082517

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          I'm feeling guilty for running my truck motor here at break for the A/C but then I remember all those private jets at Davos.

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            Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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              50% of fossil carbon has been released in the last 30 years.

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              This is wrong. It’s 20-25%. And the last 50 years includes a whole bunch on non-boomers and a massive industrialization of Asia. WTF is up with you people and “boomers”? There’s always going to be old people. And all of them were formerly young people.

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              • serpineslair@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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                Except corporations aren't some mythical deities. They are run by people, especially boomers

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                • serpineslair@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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                  What generation was it that invented leaded gasoline and put asbestos in everything knowing the negative effects even then, again? 🤔

                  Oh yeah... The Greatest Generation. Boomers just wanna be like their grandparents.

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                    Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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                    Boomer not want regulate oil company because then Boomer 401k go down.

                    Oh no!

                    Boomer vote for moron who make 401k go down anyway, Boomer house burn down / wash away in flood / hurricane.

                    Sad, indeterminate Boomer noises

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                      This is wrong. It’s 20-25%. And the last 50 years includes a whole bunch on non-boomers and a massive industrialization of Asia. WTF is up with you people and “boomers”? There’s always going to be old people. And all of them were formerly young people.

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                      'Boomers' as a term originated as, and is actually specific to American Baby Boomers.

                      The generation that lived through the most anomalous economic boom in US history, assumed that was actually normal, and consistently voted as a general block to ensure (among many other stupid things) that the climate would be destroyed for their grandchildren, children, and deliciously ironically, even themselves as they are now all set to retire....

                      ... all when they had a disproportional amount of actual wealth, social power, thus ability to avert this, thus collective general responsibility for not doing so.

                      That is how any history books not written by Boomers will summarize this.

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                        What generation was it that invented leaded gasoline and put asbestos in everything knowing the negative effects even then, again? 🤔

                        Oh yeah... The Greatest Generation. Boomers just wanna be like their grandparents.

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                        The "Greatest Generation" are the parents of Boomers.

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                          'Boomers' as a term originated as, and is actually specific to American Baby Boomers.

                          The generation that lived through the most anomalous economic boom in US history, assumed that was actually normal, and consistently voted as a general block to ensure (among many other stupid things) that the climate would be destroyed for their grandchildren, children, and deliciously ironically, even themselves as they are now all set to retire....

                          ... all when they had a disproportional amount of actual wealth, social power, thus ability to avert this, thus collective general responsibility for not doing so.

                          That is how any history books not written by Boomers will summarize this.

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                          Two questions: 1) Who you gonna blame when they’re all dead and 2) What are other, apparently superior “generations”, en masse, doing to realize a better world?

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                            Two questions: 1) Who you gonna blame when they’re all dead and 2) What are other, apparently superior “generations”, en masse, doing to realize a better world?

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                            1. Them, still, because they are the ones who did the things.

                            This is like asking if I am still going to be blaming Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor, Andrew Jackson for the Trail of Tears.

                            1. Well for example, Gen Z and Millenials have been, collectively, much more concerned about climate change and trying to have their voices heard, but the Boomers have also destroyed both the US Political System/Government and also Economy, and you... can't really socially act from a position of little to no social power.

                            Your framing of this question does two things:

                            It misses the point that climate change is a time sensitive issue with a window for being able to address it. That window is largely passed now, now we are in the stage of 'how do we mitigate/survive this' instead of 'how do we prevent this'.

                            And this is also victim blaming. Hey I burned down your house, why are you homeless, what are YOU doing to solve YOUR problem?

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                              OP is regurgitating oligarch deflection. Oligarchs did this, age is completely irrelevant in this connection, and there will continue to be oligarchs in every single generation, unless something is done about it.

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                                50% of fossil carbon has been released in the last 30 years.

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                                So it was gen z who did it then.

                                Do you not listen to yourself how moronic that argument is?

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                                  So it was gen z who did it then.

                                  Do you not listen to yourself how moronic that argument is?

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                                  Hi shit for brains. I was replying to a comment about the industrial revolution beginning 200 years ago. I wasn't making a comment on gen z or baby boomers. I was pointing out that the people alive today are the ones responsible for climate change - not the people who lived over a hundred years ago. Bless you, I hope you have a great day.

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                                  • serpineslair@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    Sure, sure it's the "boomers" fault, not the fault of countless corporations. I'll bet people are pretty much as damaging as they were four decades ago.

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                                    The boomers have held the levers of power longer than any other generation, at least in America. It is their fault because they run the companies and they run the government.

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                                      This is wrong. It’s 20-25%. And the last 50 years includes a whole bunch on non-boomers and a massive industrialization of Asia. WTF is up with you people and “boomers”? There’s always going to be old people. And all of them were formerly young people.

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                                      I didn't say a word about boomers, I was replying to a post about the industrial revolution and 200 years ago.

                                      But to get back to my point, in 1993 the cumulative emissions were 861 billion tons and in 2023 it was 1770 billion tons. So almost perfectly doubled in 30 years.

                                      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co2-emissions-region?stackMode=absolute&time=1993..latest

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                                        1. Them, still, because they are the ones who did the things.

                                        This is like asking if I am still going to be blaming Japan for bombing Pearl Harbor, Andrew Jackson for the Trail of Tears.

                                        1. Well for example, Gen Z and Millenials have been, collectively, much more concerned about climate change and trying to have their voices heard, but the Boomers have also destroyed both the US Political System/Government and also Economy, and you... can't really socially act from a position of little to no social power.

                                        Your framing of this question does two things:

                                        It misses the point that climate change is a time sensitive issue with a window for being able to address it. That window is largely passed now, now we are in the stage of 'how do we mitigate/survive this' instead of 'how do we prevent this'.

                                        And this is also victim blaming. Hey I burned down your house, why are you homeless, what are YOU doing to solve YOUR problem?

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                                        The generational level of “concern” can be measured in voter turnout data. It isn’t very good.

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                                          The boomers have held the levers of power longer than any other generation, at least in America. It is their fault because they run the companies and they run the government.

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                                          Right but like our grandads? Like my grandad did that?

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