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Dogs and cats can definitely perceive spiciness from capsaicin. Are you maybe thinking about birds? They cannot.
All I'm thinking about now is a bird perching on a line with a constant stream of explosive diarrhea, and it's one of the funniest images I've ever conceived.
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One of those things you buy but never to actually eat. I remember my brother bought me a beer that was made using yeast originally cultured from beard hairs belonging to the master Brewmaster (I believe rouge brewery made it). Could never bring myself to drink it. Sat in my shelf for years as more of a keep sake.
That's fucking disgusting. Are they valuable? I pull one of those of my bath drain every couple of years if he ever needs another one.
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By this researcher they do feel the "pain" from it:
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Am I just missing where they claim that? From the conclusion:
Altering the palatability of this feed to rodents through the addition of capsaicin may greatly enhance traditional methods of increasing poison bait acceptance on poultry operations
That they avoid the taste has nothing inherently to do with the 'pain' experienced as a result of consuming it - in the preceding section they discuss other strategies to increase bait acceptance, including adding rodenticide to preferred bait foods. That rodents have taste preferences isn't really in question, that they have a pain response to consuming capsaicin is.
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I never understood sweets with spiciness added. It just ruins the whole experience for me. Spicy on savoury foods is fine but not on primarily sweet ones.
I dunno. I like my chili flavoured candy.
Beside, wasn't chocolate traditionally eaten with chili by the natives? Or was it a spicy coco drink...?
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I can get sensory extremes by walking outside, right now. I'm good on that front.
It's clear I'm on the minority side here, no problem on that, but is it that weird to expect food to have flavour and not hurt me while I'm eating it? It seems reasonable.
It's totally normal to like or not like spicy and i doubt anyone would judge you for that. I think your comment's wording is a bit reactive though.
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Am I just missing where they claim that? From the conclusion:
Altering the palatability of this feed to rodents through the addition of capsaicin may greatly enhance traditional methods of increasing poison bait acceptance on poultry operations
That they avoid the taste has nothing inherently to do with the 'pain' experienced as a result of consuming it - in the preceding section they discuss other strategies to increase bait acceptance, including adding rodenticide to preferred bait foods. That rodents have taste preferences isn't really in question, that they have a pain response to consuming capsaicin is.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]here is test that uses pain caused by capsicin to test local anesthesia:
orofacial capsaicin test in rats
Does this prove that capsicium causes pain?
Edit some more research regarding the rodents:
Tree shrews can tolerate hot peppers:
Changes in TRPV1-Mediated Physiological Function in Rats Systemically Treated With Capsaicin on the Neonate -
No, just getting lied to by Alexa is all.
AI strikes again.
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Dogs and cats can't taste capsaicin, can mice?
Yes, like all mammals, mice can taste the capsaicin and it’ll burn.
On a side note i have pet parrots and they have no receptors to register the capsaicin so those fuckers will sit there eating raw jalapeño and little red Thai peppers like it’s candy, they love the seeds. Then they come over later and give me spicy kisses
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I never understood sweets with spiciness added. It just ruins the whole experience for me. Spicy on savoury foods is fine but not on primarily sweet ones.
Agree with slight exception: Pineapple, Jalapeno, Pepperoni on pizza. Just the right amount of sweet, spicy, and salty on the savory base. Shit slaps.
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I never understood sweets with spiciness added. It just ruins the whole experience for me. Spicy on savoury foods is fine but not on primarily sweet ones.
Sweetness increases your tolerance for heat. The Scoville unit basically tells you how much sugar water it takes to mask the spiciness.
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I dunno. I like my chili flavoured candy.
Beside, wasn't chocolate traditionally eaten with chili by the natives? Or was it a spicy coco drink...?
Chocolate isn't sweet, it's bitter. You have to add a lot of sugar to get the sweet chocolate we're familiar with. The Mayan and Aztec versions of hot chocolate were more like a spicy coffee than the sweet drink we have now.
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here is test that uses pain caused by capsicin to test local anesthesia:
orofacial capsaicin test in rats
Does this prove that capsicium causes pain?
Edit some more research regarding the rodents:
Tree shrews can tolerate hot peppers:
Changes in TRPV1-Mediated Physiological Function in Rats Systemically Treated With Capsaicin on the Neonatewrote on last edited by [email protected]The question was never if subcutaneous injections of capsaicin produce a pain reaction, nor how the effects of neonatal exposure to capsaicin effect the development of a rats life (even if there are impacts on the sensitivity of a response in TRPV1 as a result, your second link pretty clearly establishes that that is not a strong indicator of pain response to capsaicin in rodents, though it doesn't go on to establish specifics thereof). Neither of those have to do with the consumption of capsaicin, though the second article is pretty interesting! It doesn't establish a relationship between baseline "rodents" and TRPV1 response though, nor does it make any claims about severity of response or exposure sensitivity (which are not the goals of the paper), but that may be because the only english copy I can find of the article is a fairly abbreviated version of the full chinese text (and I uh... do not read written chinese very well at all, let alone discussions of technical biology).
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No one does. It isn't a 2.2 million shu chocolate bar. It just has a very small amount of Carolina reaper pepper as an ingredient in the bar. Most of those hot sauces with goofy names are the same way. "Satan's lBunghole made with 6,000,000 pepper extract" Yeah. Made with like a drop of extract so the sauce is more like 200,000 scoville.
Ok, that makes much more sense.
I can handle a decent bit of spice, been to a good number of hole in the wall, pretty authentic restaurants of many different kinds of cuisine from many places... but I can't handle an insane amount of it, I don't know the actual scolville (sp?, shus apparently?) ratings ...
But yeah, that makes much more sense that its mostly marketing bs.
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I never understood sweets with spiciness added. It just ruins the whole experience for me. Spicy on savoury foods is fine but not on primarily sweet ones.
I've tried a few mild chilli chocolates and they've been pretty good. Not too sweet though, actual chocolates.
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The question was never if subcutaneous injections of capsaicin produce a pain reaction, nor how the effects of neonatal exposure to capsaicin effect the development of a rats life (even if there are impacts on the sensitivity of a response in TRPV1 as a result, your second link pretty clearly establishes that that is not a strong indicator of pain response to capsaicin in rodents, though it doesn't go on to establish specifics thereof). Neither of those have to do with the consumption of capsaicin, though the second article is pretty interesting! It doesn't establish a relationship between baseline "rodents" and TRPV1 response though, nor does it make any claims about severity of response or exposure sensitivity (which are not the goals of the paper), but that may be because the only english copy I can find of the article is a fairly abbreviated version of the full chinese text (and I uh... do not read written chinese very well at all, let alone discussions of technical biology).
Combination of these two should show you that mice react similarly to human reactions to oral ingestion of capsicin:
Innate liking and disgust reactions elicited by intraoral capsaicin in male mice
Acute oral toxicity of capsaicin in mice -
No, just getting lied to by Alexa is all.
Pro tip, don't ask AI abou anything factual since it just makes something up that it wants you to hear. There are thousands of resources available to you on numerous search engines that can tell you the information you want to know.
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Combination of these two should show you that mice react similarly to human reactions to oral ingestion of capsicin:
Innate liking and disgust reactions elicited by intraoral capsaicin in male mice
Acute oral toxicity of capsaicin in micewrote on last edited by [email protected]Okay, I'm starting to question if you're reading the articles you're bringing out here?
with the proportion of each reaction among disgust reactions similar to that induced by bitter and sour stimuli
First paper states in the abstract that it isn't measuring a pain response, the paper goes on to clarify that (and has some pretty horrifying descriptions of the surgical procedure...) and is explicit that any response is based on mouse behavior, making no attempt to compare it to human reactions (because that is a really tricky question to answer in a rigorous manner, lets be real)
The second is studying the LD-50 of capsaicin - and yeah I bet they had a pain response, since they were given so much of it some of them died of stomach ulcers. It does not at any point discuss the pain response from consuming it, beyond that they died, only the symptoms after consumption.
These are both fundamentally irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Agree with slight exception: Pineapple, Jalapeno, Pepperoni on pizza. Just the right amount of sweet, spicy, and salty on the savory base. Shit slaps.
That could work. But it is as I said not primarily meant tobe sweet.
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This variety is for the challenge of it, not the enjoyment of eating it.
Well this one is but many are not.
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I'm the "spicy guy" of my circle of people I know, so I always get brought in the challenge things and hottest x to try. Had the gummies and jerky, and beer, and all sorts of things. The chip has been the only one that I'd actually say was hot. Mouth was fine, but it made my stomach hurt for like 10 minutes.
Lucky you. My experience was the first 20 minutes were bad, but tolerable, then my stomach hurt like a mother fucker for an hour, then I projectile vomited and sat in the shower for like an hour+. Went to bed after that. It was like 5PM.
