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Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?

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  • M [email protected]

    What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

    *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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    Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.

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      A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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      They jelly of that economy

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        CA republicans hate California just as much

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        Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

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          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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          It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

          They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

          There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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            California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

            It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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            Oh dear, I have to post it again:

            Fuck the south

            Look at the economies of southern red states. They're fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

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              It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

              They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

              There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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              I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head

              i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest

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                They jelly of that economy

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                "B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!"

                To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It's a myth.

                Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

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                  Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

                  If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

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                    It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

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                    I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it

                    Looks at responses in this topic

                    Are you sure about that? People who are in deep on both sides of the political spectrum behave exactly the same way in regards to things like this. This is just a thread of bash the “red states” because they……bash the “blue states” lol.

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                      Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of "liberals", etc. etc.

                      And yet, it's the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

                      They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

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                      4th largest*

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                        It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                        They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                        There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                        You're thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They've never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can't conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.

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                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                          I'm on some outdoor forums and the most common complaints I hear about "Commiefornia" relate to gun control. They like their guns, and despise anyone who tries to interfere with that. The rest is mostly side issues.

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                            A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                            right wing propaganda from MSMs, like fox. they are also hyprocites because many of them live like in nevada, and thier entire business is inside CALIFORNIA. for eg, i used to followed some asian ytubers, they moved to LAS VEGAS or reno over the pandemic but they rail on california, called it woke, but thier base is in california los angelas. and then they were whining about the lack of community culture for POCs in VEGAS, healthcare and school. also one of them was caught by california EDD laws, for mislabeling thier employees as contractors,1099 instead of full time employees. he was literally asking the incel viewers how to EVADE and commit fraud to get away with it.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              From what I can tell from up in Canada, it's a more 'liberal' leaning state according to their metric and they don't like that.

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                              they think its a hellhole, because of all the homeless and junkies, but they arnt telling the whole truth when red states are the ones putting them on buses to MA, NYC, WASHINGTON, california, also whining about the income taxes, property taxes.

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                                Everybody loves finding things in common with other people.

                                Since California is percieved by the right to be a "liberal stronghold", it is easy for them to bond over a shared hatred of it. Regardless of whether or not that hate is based in fact.

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                                both cali and NY. they probably dont know that are many blue states than just new york and california.

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                                  Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

                                  If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

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                                  also we dont have the AI data centers polluting our states, like many red states have right now.

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                                    California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

                                    It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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                                    california, washington(seattle),NEW YORK, massachuesets,oregon too, and the rest.

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                                      It ain't perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it's far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

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                                      less gun violence rates, compared to red states. one of the favorite things to rail on about california is the gun violence, and they always misinformed. despite having a larger population with gun violence its less than places like texas.

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                                        What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

                                        *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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                                        its also because many moved to those 2 states recently

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                                          Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

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                                          the LA are has alot of those, youtubers i used to followed moved during pandemic to VEGAS, and thier business is based in LA for reason obviously, who wants to do business in vegas. at the sametime railing on cali, they complain about nevadas lack of services.

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