Spotify to raise prices in September
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the modded app chad bubble
Wrong assumption
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This is more convenient than piracy.
Having the files locally is more convenient though
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Friendly reminder that your “legally acquired” library of FLAC files never raises its subscription prices!
Yep. Hooray for self hosting!
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Re: Transferring, I bought a 1TB sd-card for my phone and use Syncthing to transfer music from desktop to phone.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nowadays people say it's advanced stuff for powerusers, but just a decade ago this was the way for everybody: download audio to your computer, sync some of it to mobile devices, listen on the go. Everybody did it, OSs had dedicated software that got activated as soon as you plugged the device in etc.
I hate the "convenience factor" or "non-technical user" arguments.
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That's definitely a nice feature for sure but getting Jellyfin to even recognize the album/songs means they all need to be properly labeled and filed correctly and that some database somewhere needs to have that album's metadata available which can be real hit or miss. SoulSeek seems to be decent for labeling and allows you to choose who you're downloading from but its still a clunky mess at the end of the day.
I'm all for self hosting as much as possible but for me personally its just much more convenient to use a streaming service for music, and these days I find myself listening to podcasts the most which aren't going to be available on the high seas (nor would I bother if they were because I'm not going to listen to them again).
Not trying to convince you in particular of anything, but for anyone who may be interested in switching to a different podcast app, I'd recommend trying Antennapod.
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There are a lot of reasons for this but mostly because music streaming has been so popular that it wiped out the market for music. Its also a huge pain in the ass to sort and organize music when nobody follows a standard when they rip music so it makes automating things a lot harder as well.
I have several thousand songs I've downloaded over the last 25 years but even with modern tools like MusicBrainz Picard or Lidarr, there's no good way to organize your collection. You wind up with a bunch of singles or oddball songs from a compilation album, from a sampler, or you download an album and half of the songs come from the US version while the other half is from a UK version of the album and the uploader forgot to include a bonus track that comes on that version. Its just a huge mess that you dont see with movies and TV because apart from things like a "Director's Cut" or "Extended Version," you know what you're getting when you download them.
Additionally, playback isnt easy either. Are you going to manually transfer hundreds of files to your phone? Stream from your home media server to your phone and use a bunch of bandwidth? You're getting tired of 30% of your songs so are you going to go through your collection one by one and erase them?
There's a huge convenience factor for services like Spotify. With movies and TV the convenience factor definitely favors the self-hosted side of things.
I'll weigh in since I started hosting my own subsonic server.
I dropped lidar because, like you said, its full album based and doesn't play well with partial collections. I dont want to collect music albums, I want to listen to music. I've not found a good solution for it yet, but I don't even think I even need it. Once I get music, I tag the files with a desktop app which uses musicbrains for data and then drop the files on a SMB share. Navidrome picks them up and makes them available for streaming in 2 seconds.
Bandwidth is free and file storage space is cheap. Any convenience I gained from spotify is lost when music gets removed from it. Most recently it was king gizzard who removed half their library from spotify and I actually purchased some of their albums from bandcamp before. I own the mp3s already, but used spotify for convenience. Now I host them myself. Now I'm in control.
Obviously though, I'm the odd man out. Not everyone will be able to do this. But if I can, I will. And since I can, I do.
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
Just leaving this here from the excellent [email protected]
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Friendly reminder that your “legally acquired” library of FLAC files never raises its subscription prices!
I will never part from locally stored music. I do, however, would love to have my collection run through a recommendation algorithm for discovering new music.
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must be hard paying 5 bucks for an exporter :^(
Can't be fucked looking into how to grab my playlists. I'm sure I will eventually
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I will never part from locally stored music. I do, however, would love to have my collection run through a recommendation algorithm for discovering new music.
Would scrobbling to e.g. ListenBrainz (or last fm) be an option for you for discovery?
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
Music costs??
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
wrote last edited by [email protected]Spotify has a become a shit show lately. I don't like that the CEO is supporting a genocidal state, the platform is full of fake AI artists and playlists. Artists aren't getting paid enough. the price hikes and the app just feels so bloated with unnecessary bullshit. Because of this, I switched to self hosting my own music server (Navidrome, and Lidarr) and I use the symphonium app on Android. Really happy with that solution
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
I will cancel it
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I guess some people are, as long as it’s a good balance of convenience and price. Ages ago, Napster, Kazaa and DC++ were considered more convenient than buying music. I guess torrents are used for that these days.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I work a desk job. I cant put pirated music on my work computer or ill get fired. Only real option is a pay service.
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
spotify lost me as a customer as soon as I learned that they gifted 150k to Trump for his inaugaration party
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I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
Military defence is expensive
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I work a desk job. I cant put pirated music on my work computer or ill get fired. Only real option is a pay service.
I don’t like to bring my personal stuff on my work computer, but I can use my phone for all that stuff instead. You could use a BT speaker to blast pirate metal in the office.
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Ditched Spotify and bought myself a galleon and a tricorner hat instead. Haven't looked back.
Lidarr + Navidrome + Feishin + Metube
Mullvad for acquiring, TailScale and Symfonium for listening while away from home
This sounds like a lot of setup but probably took a few hours in total to set up the various docker images and get them working together.
I spend my saved money on vinyls, official merch, and SoundCloud or BandCamp purchases for my local library.
Yarrr! hello there fellow matey!
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Sounds good but, do you also set this up individually on your wife's and kids phones and devices and keep them updated? -
I have got to admit I canned Spotify subs years ago - but how are they managing to grow their subscriber base whn it is now going to be £11.99 in the UK? That is way, way too high for what it offers...
I use Bandcamp when I want to buy and YouTube with ad blocker for streaming.
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Just leaving this here from the excellent [email protected]
From that chart Qobuz seems to be the all round best deal. Is there any catch?
