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What do you think of the future of the Internet? Will the "Splinternet" become reality for most of the world?

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  • R [email protected]

    These aren’t actual “splinters” though. These are just pissing matches between platforms. The idea of disconnecting a range of users from the internet (such as a country geo blocking another country) is quite a bit different, like if reddit was suddenly no longer available to lemmy users and vice versa.

    I for one hope for the balkanization of the internet because while it will be extremely disruptive and kind of a nightmare it will potentially facilitate and popularize a replacement like ipfs, yggdrasil, or more federation to displace this corpo nightmare we’ve found ourselves in

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    Why not call it decentralization? Because that sounds like an actual good thing.

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      I2P.

      I2P.

      How do more people not know about I2P?!

      You can run your own darknet node today!

      You can build a local meshnet with it, and/or connect it out to as far as you can reach any other I2P node.

      You can use it as a sort of distributed VPN to access the clearnet, and/or acquire yaaaarrgh matey content, and, though it is slow, it is more secure than Tor, and would be faster if more people used it.

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      Thanks. I've set up one of these and integrated it with a Lora node a while back. Its a neat novelty. But its exceptionally hard to work with at least for me. Hope the project does well though!

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        Thanks. I've set up one of these and integrated it with a Lora node a while back. Its a neat novelty. But its exceptionally hard to work with at least for me. Hope the project does well though!

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        I am just happy you actually know what it is, and even better, have really futzed about with it.

        Yes, it is a bit of hassle to figure out how to set up properly... it would probably be quite helpful if somebody set up an 'idiots guide to using I2P', or some kind of 'input your use case -> heres what you need to do' type of instructional or autoconfig generator tool..

        But I2P has so, so much potential to act as a secure and versatile sort of underweb, for all things that are not dependant on very low latency and high dl/ul speeds.

        We can more or less just go back to the old, slower paced but highly efficient internet, but much more private and secure, if we want to build it ourselves.

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        • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

          Unrelated: Isn’t North Korea’s “internet” just a LAN running with 10.x.x.x addresses? Lol

          Edit: Fuck, looks like all the master debaters came out of the woodwork on this.

          Yes, obviously the internet is a network of networks but we don’t typically route private subnets over the public network. 🥴

          They’re literally using a private subnet as their “internet.”

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          All networks are LAN. The Internet is made of millions of tiny networks routed together.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinternet

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            Truly a dangerous time when whole internets are defederating from one another. Will the echo-chambered walled gardens ever fall?

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinternet

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              i think it's becoming an inevitabiliy. when you have the EU passing laws preventing data collection and US states like mississippi requiring it, eventually the laws become incompatible and your only options become serving a different site to every jurisdiction or just blocking large swathes of the planet. i think unfortunately we're in the last years of there being a singular "the internet" as things shift from nations reactively geoblocking sites to sites proactively geoblocking themselves

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              • R [email protected]

                All networks are LAN. The Internet is made of millions of tiny networks routed together.

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                Obviously, but most of us don’t use internal IP ranges on the public network. 😆

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                  Truly a dangerous time when whole internets are defederating from one another. Will the echo-chambered walled gardens ever fall?

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                  It's hard to start world war 3 if people can just talk to eachother and don't have to believe dehumanizing propaganda.

                  So better make that illegal. For the children!

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                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinternet

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                    Let's see if I get it: Back to the early 90s?

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                      Let's see if I get it: Back to the early 90s?

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                      no, it’s just different countries firewalling other countries to varying degrees so they have their own, distinct internet…
                      like the great firewall of china means that most chinese citizens can only access websites hosted in china….

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                        Wait until economic sanctions on a nation includes cutting them off from the US, EU, so on...

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                          no, it’s just different countries firewalling other countries to varying degrees so they have their own, distinct internet…
                          like the great firewall of china means that most chinese citizens can only access websites hosted in china….

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                          In Spain we had Infovia in the 90s, a kind of Spanish internet. Not directly connected to internet.

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