It's been downhill since 2020
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September 11th, 2001 was a real inflection point for the US. We, collectively decided that civil rights aren't as important as revenge.
The terrorists ended up winning the long game in the end. They caused America to tear itself apart from within and made it a pariah on the world stage.
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Nah 2012 when people got smartphones is when the world ended
Making the internet as easily accessible and dumbed down as possible didn't help. It let stupid people easily find each other and reinforce each other's beliefs while isolating themselves from reality.
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I see this said about the 90s all the time but really this is not true. In the 90s there was (not an exhaustive list)
- First Gulf War
- Yugoslavia war
- Rwandan Genocide
- Oklahoma City Bombing
- Columbine Massacre
- Los Angeles Riots
- The Fall Of USSR (while on one hand a good thing it also cause so much economic decline, hunger, and excess mortality in the millions to many former bloc countries)
- Somalian War
- US 1990 recession
- 1997 Asian Financial crisis
- Dot com bubble
- Hurricane Andrew
- 1999 İzmit earthquake
It's very common when asking any person what was the best period of time for the world for their response to be a period of time their formative years were.
The reality is history is full of horrid horrid things and nostalgia is a follie that'll trick your mind.
wrote last edited by [email protected]What about the African Great War?
Edit: ...and Sierra Leone and Liberia.
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And the profitable timeline is the only possible one. This is the great filter.
This would imply that capitalism is inevitable in species with potentially spacefaring intelligence. I refuse to accept that for my own sanity’s sake.
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At this point, anything remotely near bare-metal material reality triggers such a cognitive dissonance in a lot of folks, on account of all of the bs they have in their heads, that all of that bare-metal material reality is discarded as too painful.
I know it's cliche, but i think capitalism deserves a lot of the blame.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)1975 is the beginning of the end for the US Empire. The treasury spent on a dumb war in SE Asia, Reaganomics and his trickle down BS, Gulf War I & II (wasting more treasure). Krasnov, COVID and fucking Krasnov again.
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I know it's cliche, but i think capitalism deserves a lot of the blame.
Sure, but I'd wager it goes beyond the singular manifestation of power as money. Plenty of other manifestations, and all lead to similar places.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)"I just got a great idea for a new novel! It's about the end of humanity, but with a twist, because the humans don't even know they are done for yet. They think it's just a bit more aggressive flu, but in fact it's highly contagious and each time you get it, it damages your brain a slight bit more. Everyone keeps getting infected and so they slowly get dumber and more aggressive until civilization collapses in wars and economic chaos."
"That's stupid, something like that could never happen."
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)2018 for chile
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Sure, but I'd wager it goes beyond the singular manifestation of power as money. Plenty of other manifestations, and all lead to similar places.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Its not about the money directly, it's about the alienation from things like labor and value, plus absolutely insane shit people need to believe to feel okay in it.
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This would imply that capitalism is inevitable in species with potentially spacefaring intelligence. I refuse to accept that for my own sanity’s sake.
Perhaps it's a contextual Great Filter only for instances of intelligent life in which capitalistic modes of production win out.
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"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."
It was Harambe. We didn't reload.
We were saying this elsewhere, and someone posted a link claiming the real cause was like a week before Harrambe, a rat I think it was crawled into the Hadrian collider I think while on, in switzerland I think they are accelerating particles to study Physics bullshit, higgs boson something.
There was a theoretical possibility they could have started a chain reaction that would destroy the world they were saying when they were talking about building it fyi.
Anyway though this rat got in there when it was on and they are saying that through the timeline off, a week before harambe.
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I know it's cliche, but i think capitalism deserves a lot of the blame.
What we have now is capitalism, but it is other things as well. Some say late stage capitalism. It is a plutocracy. It is becoming even more of a kakistocracy, rule of the worst. It was borderline fascist and now becoming moreso.
We had capitalism in the 1950s through the 1970s, and we had a pretty prosperous society, for whatever faults the system had, anybody with a job could live a decent life, which is the overriding concern of everybody, not living in destitute poverty.
They have changed the way inflation is measured a number of times to understate it, and now we are compound fucked by 50 years.
Social Security checks would have been worth $1,200 more on average a month just in 2008 under the unchanged standard. We are getting robbed everyday by inflation and we believe the ivy league suits on TV that tell us our wages have never had more buying power.
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What we have now is capitalism, but it is other things as well. Some say late stage capitalism. It is a plutocracy. It is becoming even more of a kakistocracy, rule of the worst. It was borderline fascist and now becoming moreso.
We had capitalism in the 1950s through the 1970s, and we had a pretty prosperous society, for whatever faults the system had, anybody with a job could live a decent life, which is the overriding concern of everybody, not living in destitute poverty.
They have changed the way inflation is measured a number of times to understate it, and now we are compound fucked by 50 years.
Social Security checks would have been worth $1,200 more on average a month just in 2008 under the unchanged standard. We are getting robbed everyday by inflation and we believe the ivy league suits on TV that tell us our wages have never had more buying power.
capitalism in the 50s
Weird, because in china they call what we had in the 50s communism (it's what they're doing now). They're not more or less correct than you are.
Tgough i should note thatvwhat youre saying is true for white men.
inflation is the problem!
The concept of ownership being valued over labor snd basing our economy on a nonsense points system we equate with virtue is a bigger problem
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capitalism in the 50s
Weird, because in china they call what we had in the 50s communism (it's what they're doing now). They're not more or less correct than you are.
Tgough i should note thatvwhat youre saying is true for white men.
inflation is the problem!
The concept of ownership being valued over labor snd basing our economy on a nonsense points system we equate with virtue is a bigger problem
The minimum wage applied to everybody outside of agricultural work. So the minorities that did not share in an exalted social status, still had enough money to live a dignified life.
I specifically addressed that so I would not have somebody discounting the lessons from the post-war era because not everything was perfect. It's not perfect now either by the way, so you can discount everything from today or any period in time with that logic.
We are being robbed and you are addressing some abstract concept, and not the means by which we have been robbed. Inflation is a real measured thing we could reset our wages and raises on. I think you are wrong headed on all of your points here.
Capital being valued over labor is not mutually exclusive with addressing us being robbed by dishonest numbers.
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My theory is that Covid killed everyone and this is purgatory.
(TikTok screencap)In 2010 they tried to create micro black holes, since this hat not worked the probability for extra dimensions is somewhat limited, at least that is what we believe.
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Ah the good old Futurological Congress by Lem. Read it, the movie is a mess.
There is a movie?
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The minimum wage applied to everybody outside of agricultural work. So the minorities that did not share in an exalted social status, still had enough money to live a dignified life.
I specifically addressed that so I would not have somebody discounting the lessons from the post-war era because not everything was perfect. It's not perfect now either by the way, so you can discount everything from today or any period in time with that logic.
We are being robbed and you are addressing some abstract concept, and not the means by which we have been robbed. Inflation is a real measured thing we could reset our wages and raises on. I think you are wrong headed on all of your points here.
Capital being valued over labor is not mutually exclusive with addressing us being robbed by dishonest numbers.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You act like a shitty unjust system of exploitation can ever be made just.
Like the abstractions youve been trained to hold dear are 'real' and not abstractions so many fucking degrees out. 'Money' and 'inflation' are fake. We made them the fuck up. Outside of systems designed to value them theyre entirely nonsense.
Yes we're being robbed, thats the nature of labor when ownership is valued above it! When accumulation and centralization is the fundamental incentive! The very system was designed to lie and exploit, yes, of course its doing that. Why do you tjink the fuckers lying to you and exploiting you love it so much?
You act like you can fix a bisection with a band-aid. Like you can fix something so thoroughly broken without fundamental systemic change.
Like, metaphor time: combustion engines are bad, but switching to electric cars powered by coal power plants isn't really better. You get that right? We need trains, ideally powered by overhead wire renewables, so we arent hauling 2-10 tons of vehicle around for every hundred pounds of human. And maybe more local production of heavy shit.
Like, you sre right. There is injustice. And im not, like, a fan of tjose things, but i think the system is much more fucked than you think it is.
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Perhaps it's a contextual Great Filter only for instances of intelligent life in which capitalistic modes of production win out.
Then it doesn’t serve its purpose of solving the Fermi paradox.
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You act like a shitty unjust system of exploitation can ever be made just.
Like the abstractions youve been trained to hold dear are 'real' and not abstractions so many fucking degrees out. 'Money' and 'inflation' are fake. We made them the fuck up. Outside of systems designed to value them theyre entirely nonsense.
Yes we're being robbed, thats the nature of labor when ownership is valued above it! When accumulation and centralization is the fundamental incentive! The very system was designed to lie and exploit, yes, of course its doing that. Why do you tjink the fuckers lying to you and exploiting you love it so much?
You act like you can fix a bisection with a band-aid. Like you can fix something so thoroughly broken without fundamental systemic change.
Like, metaphor time: combustion engines are bad, but switching to electric cars powered by coal power plants isn't really better. You get that right? We need trains, ideally powered by overhead wire renewables, so we arent hauling 2-10 tons of vehicle around for every hundred pounds of human. And maybe more local production of heavy shit.
Like, you sre right. There is injustice. And im not, like, a fan of tjose things, but i think the system is much more fucked than you think it is.
You have no cause to accuse me of not seeing things like they are first of all.
Second of all you just refuted my own point while agreeing with me. You could have just added to my point, but you refused it and then expounded on the same subject.
The inflation rate is a real tangible thing people can understand, that shows how full of shit the system has been for our entire lives.
