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Jeff Bezos Says He Doesn't Understand Why Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'

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    One wholly owned, serviced, and supplied by Amazon.

    But don’t worry. Orbital Prime is only $999 a year and includes unlimited deliveries and six return trips to land. (For now)

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    swipe card
    declined
    oxygen pump shuts off

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      Let's at least hate accurately. Blue Origin is working on a ton of stuff, just super slowly. Their orbital rocket, New Glenn, should have its 2nd launch in a few weeks. They're working on a space station, Orbital Reef, but I have no idea what the timeline is. They're also allegedly working on an orbital crew capsule, but that has almost zero public info.

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      I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.

      If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.

      Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.

      Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.

      So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™

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        Hey Jeff, being good at buying something for a dollar and selling it for two doesn't mean you're a genius. Salesmen shouldn't be giving advice like that.

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          In Space!!

          where slavery laws don't exist
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            isnt me or bezos is taking alot of PEDs right now. he doesnt want to be seen a scrawny tech ceo.

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            They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.

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              He would make breathable air a subscription based service and I'm not for it.

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                I mean, they are stupid cocaine-brained man-children, but it would be history's greatest fuckup to *choose * space over Earth. No matter how much we manage to fuck it up, it will always be more suitable for life than space or mars.

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                it will always be more suitable for life than space

                Not always. Eventually, our sun will expand and render Earth too hot for life.

                Do we need to leave Earth today? No. Do we need to leave Earth soon? No. Is it wise to make long-term plans? Yes.

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                  I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.

                  If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.

                  Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.

                  Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.

                  So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™

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                  Agreed, but your original 2nd paragraph made it seem like Blue is only doing New Shepherd. If Bezos wants a million people in space during his lifetime, he needs to be full speed ahead, "build it and they will come", on Orbital Reef modules, the rumored 7 seat New Glenn orbital capsule, lunar surface resource extraction and refinement... Massive investments in transportation, science, manufacturing, and tourism in cislunar space.

                  Instead, I'm guessing the progression will be more like:

                  • Today: 10 people in orbit (the regular crew for ISS + Tiangong)
                  • Record: 19 people in orbit (regular crew, second Soyuz, stranded Starliner crew, Dragon free flyer)
                  • 5 years prediction: Break 20 (some mix of station crew handovers, Tiangong expansion, US commercial station/module, Gaganyaan, Mangzhou, Orion, Starship)
                  • 10 years prediction: Break 50
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                    you first, dickhead.

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                      NGL I want off this planet.

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                      There's nowhere else to go.

                      The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at
                      least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not
                      yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

                      Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot

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                        Probably because that doesn't pay for rent, gas, groceries, clothes, utilities, bills, or healthcare. Are you accepting "will live in space soon" as payment on your website, Jeff? No? Well fuck off then.

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                          Has he been taking steroids?

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                            Jeff: don’t worry I got this.

                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qfVXLQBygw&pp=ygUaamVmZiBiZXpvcyB3aWxsaWFtIHNoYXRuZXI%3D

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                              By upvoting this thread you are giving this guy visibility and not others

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                              Well it’s frigging Bozo so trying to bury his presence won’t work.

                              On the other hand it is displaying all the anger and disdain towards him.

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                                hey now this dude wanted to go to space to escape capitalism, not to spread it. he's infinitely better than this dickhead jeff bozo.

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                                  Because tech billionaires can charge money for all of that in space!

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                                  that's the main reason they actually hope they can do it. it fucking bothers them so much that they can't charge you for breathing.

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                                    They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.

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                                    and some of them like thiel and bryan johnson, is spending millions a year on "life extending" pseudoscience treatments/research. bryan is a little more extreme than the others.

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                                      Millions of people.... On a planet of billions.

                                      Wasn't there a Matt Damon movie about that?

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                                        Disobey and it's out the airlock for you...

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