We are way overdue for an open source 2d printer
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Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?
HP wants to know your location
literally though
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Or use plotters. These are the same X-Y setup as a 3D printer, where you use a pen instead of an extrusion module. There are a bunch of DIY projects for this. But now you're talking about minutes per page, not pages per minute.
Plotters are so much slower than printers, but having one write your document out for you would be so cool. This is one reason I would buy a Cricut.
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Every time this is brought up someone has to remind people that printers watermark whatever they print with a unique ID in barely readable type. That's, for example, why they refuse to print something in black when yellow is low. And it's a legal requirement.
That is only specific brands like HP with only specific models as well.
https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots
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An open source 2d printer is possible but will probably never happen
The print head is incredibly complex, the drivers and communications to talk to printers are all closed source, and unlike 3d printing the level of quality people are accustomed to is covered by patents for another 20-30 years
Most of my printing needs don't even require "near letter quality". I can deal with a modern equivalent to a 9-pin printer and just send out final versions for professional printing.
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US patents expire after 20 years.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]obscenely expensive birth, no parental leave, no childcare support... it's a wonder they last that long.
edit: now op changed parents to patents and i look like an idiot. let us make fun of your obvious typo
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Bring back Dot Matrix!!
She was pretty hot in ReBoot
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The latter. Someone could create a novel means of transferring ink onto paper in a way that results in high resolution images and give it to the world for free i suppose
Don't need to be novel, everything from 2005 and older is no longer under patent.
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That is only specific brands like HP with only specific models as well.
https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots
Your own link says that as of 2017 assume all new printers print some form of tracking
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US patents expire after 20 years.
Now that I think about it that is when mine started to get pretty shitty.
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Yes!! A 2d printer that you can assemble with 3d printed parts. Let's do it. Which technologies can we use to 2d print that are easy to assemble?
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An open source 2d printer is possible but will probably never happen
The print head is incredibly complex, the drivers and communications to talk to printers are all closed source, and unlike 3d printing the level of quality people are accustomed to is covered by patents for another 20-30 years
I want the scanner part.
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That is correct but it means it’s a lot of work for not much benefit
3d printing took off in 2009 when the stratasys patents on FDM expired. You can literally look at the history of consumer 3d printing and it’s basically nothing nothing nothing nothing 2009 reprap makerbot prusa. Similarly when SLA patents expired we suddenly got formlabs and eventually cheap resin printers.
Why reinvent the wheel? If a patent is about to expire just wait and do that. If it’s not and you truly have a novel idea for how to achieve the function that does not infringe on any patents, most people would end up trying to sell it (assuming they have the skill to bring it to market). Our culture is ruthless and requires capital to survive so I don’t necessarily fault someone for trying to secure the bag, though I wish they would at least do it in a way that wasn’t totally gross
That's just it, most people don't mind paying for a printer or ink. It's the way they charge insane prices for ink, and then make you do backflips to get a scan or one page out.
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If you've got a printer that does that, add lots of yellow dots to your document before printing it.
The dots that are used for ID are ridiculously small tho
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Your own link says that as of 2017 assume all new printers print some form of tracking
Watch me buy a 1990s hunk of shit laser jet as big as my desk just to fuck with feds
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Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?
Because NSA.
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Found one after a minute of looking: https://hackaday.io/project/167446-diy-inkjet-printer
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Today my HP printer asked my for my GPS location, to allow me to scan a document. Like why? Why is it required to use a basic option?
HP printers are shit, I don't want one even if you pay me.
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Found one after a minute of looking: https://hackaday.io/project/167446-diy-inkjet-printer
That's very cool but not exactly practical for everyday use.
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That makes sense. If you’re going that route though you should be fairly safe patent wise I would think? Most of the dot matrix patents, if not all, have to be expired by now?
You would still need to explore patents. Just because patents exist, doesn't mean they are in use. I would not be surprised to find out that a company like HP would hunt down and buy any patents that could interfere with its profits just to prevent others from using them.
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The dots that are used for ID are ridiculously small tho
They are, but by definition, the printer can print them. If your on linux or Mac it looks like it might be possible to write a filter to add to CUPS that would do it for every print.
