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Lemmy Just Broke the 54k MAU Record Set During the 2023 API Exodus!

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  • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

    Meh. These stats are so flawed. Its like 5 servers having most of the users.

    Its like pretending we have this amazing distributed network when its actually extreamly centralized.

    But im happy Lemmy is growing, its good.

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    55.1k MAU are 55.1k MAU. What about that is flawed?

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      And then in 5-10 years the users will destroy it like everything else on the Internet...

      Seriously, though, make me wrong - because this kind of model is so new to me, I don't know, is there anything different about this that will resist it going the way of things that were once good and eventually weren't, like Craigslist and Reddit?

      Obviously a lot of Reddit sucks due to how it's run, but let's not overlook that part of its downfall, like with Craigslist, is the users as it grew having no respect for the model. I've been on my way out since well before the API exodus (and yet I was addicted and too lazy until now, that's on me). People posting whatever they want wherever they want and having very little understanding of nuance in language ("oddly satisfying" doesn't just mean "I like this"), misusing downvoting (I know I'm yelling at clouds, but that was where Reddit was doomed from the start to become an echo chamber, and I didn't know if Lemmy is different in that respect - do votes determine visibility here?), moderators becoming more power hungry, and I'm sorry if this is mean, but the userbase trending younger steering content much more to "mah crush, aitah?," fake stories for "points," and I feel the general populace there being more gullible. Not to mention the same comments being made over and over, and I'm not talking about bots, I'm talking about constant "this is the way" and "username checks out."

      I've seen so many actual discussions here already that are full of real passion and good points even when they're heated, some lovely user created and has posted around a really through socialist reading list. I've only seen "this is the way" once. Reddit is lazy one-word answers and downvotes. How do we encourage this and discourage that?

      Anyway, I rant. This place is great now and will only get better as it grows, but I hope this model will in some way resist that downfall. But I've come to accept that nothing on the Internet is permanent. And also that people are gonna people and if I don't like that, it's on me to leave.

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      The difference is the way it is run. You got it. And if one day Midwest.social starts doing things you hate and treating it’s users like crap, then come on over to lemmy.world or lemmy.ca, or one if the other thousands instances.

      People hosting the database are not the owners of the platform unlike Reddit. They get to tell us how we can use it just because they host the database.

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      • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]
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        It is really awesome here. Like the good ol internet days.

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          Worth noting is that what counts as an "active user" has changed between now and then. During the Reddit API exodus, an "active user" was a user who had posted or commented in the past month. Now, it includes users who have voted. If the 54k MAU record was set using the first algorithm, it is likely that the MAU using the new algorithm (which includes voting) would have been much higher.

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            From what I understand, it's a fork of kbin. when kbin dev went silent and didn't trust anybody else to help them, a few other devs forked it.

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            And what do you think of it? What’s the general feeling? I remember being hyped about kbin then there were lots of problems with the site, then dev disappeared.

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              I'm using my web browser (on mobile)! I know I'm not the only one, but that's usually pretty unpopular. I've never been big on social media, but I've never used an app for any of them I have used in the past, including Reddit. Website with ad blockers for me, screw those guys. Here, though, I might give in eventually and try an app...

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              Phtn.app is actually a website/selfhosted interface for lemmy. The mobile PWA is a big buggy, but the desktop one works fine.

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                Good for Lemmy.

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                  Currently using phtn.app for browsing lemmy, though it’s a bit buggy on mobile. V2 will be coming soon so hopefully most bugs will be fixed.

                  What y’all using?

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                  Connect for Lemmy. Super under- rated.

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                  • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubB [email protected]

                    You're off by some orders of magnitude.

                    It's 0.005%

                    But that's based off of the 1.1 billion number I saw. Somehow I very much doubt there's 1.1 billion people with accounts who login and browse at least once a month.

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                    In spez’s wildest jizz wet dreams there are 1 billion Reddit users.

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                      Awesome thanks! I will scan around for a couple weeks and then register into a new account. Being a reddifugee with the recent censorship and a big “Center for humane tech” nerd am excited to be shifting in a better direction - so will for sure be invested in server and site health.

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                      I recommend checking what instances are blocked by your instance of choice, I chose this instance because there's extremely limited censorship.

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                      • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                        Meh. These stats are so flawed. Its like 5 servers having most of the users.

                        Its like pretending we have this amazing distributed network when its actually extreamly centralized.

                        But im happy Lemmy is growing, its good.

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                        #73

                        5 > 1

                        even 3 would be a huge advantage over centralized

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                        • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

                          The one shown is from join-lemmy:

                          https://join-lemmy.org/instances

                          Also of interest for people that love statistics (which I do):

                          https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

                          https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats

                          EDIT: As you can see, the Fediverse being what it is, it's basically impossible to get an exact, definitive count, so the numbers will always be a bit fuzzy. But they clearly show trends

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                          Fedidb used to have graphs for lemmy no? Now its only for all fediverse stuff combined 😕

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                          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                            The growth in 2025 has been staggering, ngl. And this is the kind of thing which converts from a trickle to a tsunami very quickly. It never happens with one shock. But a consistent amount of enshittification shocks. Reddit's desperate struggle for profitability practically ensures those will keep happening, so this is all inevitable at this point. The only thing that is uncertain is whether digg can recapture the fleeing masses who are not cognizant of the dangers of corporate vc-backed enshittification yet, like bluesky did to Twitter.

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                            Yeah. Reddit is currently enshitifying in overdrive. They used to just do dumb features nobody wants, but now they are actively harming the base. The entire Luigi over-moderation this is just bad, and it feels like they want the formerly leftist site to go full maga now. and even if I do have to use it, the website often tends to not function properly these days, with the site constantly reloading, or voting functions to be broken. This is the year of lemmy.

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                            • sjmarf@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                              Worth noting is that what counts as an "active user" has changed between now and then. During the Reddit API exodus, an "active user" was a user who had posted or commented in the past month. Now, it includes users who have voted. If the 54k MAU record was set using the first algorithm, it is likely that the MAU using the new algorithm (which includes voting) would have been much higher.

                              blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Good point

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                                Awesome thanks! I will scan around for a couple weeks and then register into a new account. Being a reddifugee with the recent censorship and a big “Center for humane tech” nerd am excited to be shifting in a better direction - so will for sure be invested in server and site health.

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                                You can switch if you want, but it's really okay if you stay on lemm.ee too.

                                If you look at active users on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list, Lemmy.world has 18500, while lemm.ee only has 6700, so no need to move. It's also well managed, the admins are quite reactive and transparent: [email protected]

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                                  reddit has the advantage that you need it to make google useful these days

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                                  • sunshine@lemmy.caS [email protected]
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                                    Let’s gooo

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                                    • 1984@lemmy.today1 [email protected]

                                      Meh. These stats are so flawed. Its like 5 servers having most of the users.

                                      Its like pretending we have this amazing distributed network when its actually extreamly centralized.

                                      But im happy Lemmy is growing, its good.

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                                      Fedidb observes 50k monthly active users. 65% of these are distributed between instances with more than 2000 monthly active users, making up the five biggest instances. Half (51%) are on either Lemmy.world or Lemm.ee, which are the only instances with more than 3000 monthly active users.

                                      A fourth of us are on instances with less than 1000 monthly active users.

                                      I don't think that's all that bad. But who am I to say, I'm not even part of the statistic. 🙂

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                                        To anyone new wondering about phone apps for Lemmy, I use "Thunder" and it works great.

                                        Also, feel free to say Luigi without getting banned.

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                                          Currently using phtn.app for browsing lemmy, though it’s a bit buggy on mobile. V2 will be coming soon so hopefully most bugs will be fixed.

                                          What y’all using?

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                                          vger.app

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