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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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    I upgraded last year, have lost no functionality

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    Me too! I upgraded to Fedora Linux. It's amazing how everything just works, even all the games I play.

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    • dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

      No way I'm switching to Linux yet, multi monitors support with mixed resolutions and vrr on nvidia still kinda sucks. As soon as someone makes that work I'll try it out on a separate partition. Buy last time I tried my other monitors had all kinds of issues when I had games open with gysnc

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      Dual mon with diff res works as expected here. I even have different hz I think

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        Man, I really tried today to get Linux on my Framework laptop.

        I can't believe how goddamn frustrating the experience has been, and I've dabbled in Linux for decades.

        I try Mint. Install as a dual boot... Installation done. Reboot. Straight into Windows. Check partitions and nothing has changed.

        Try again. All seems fine. Boot. Some error screen that won't let me get into Mint.

        Do this like four more times with no luck.

        Tried Ubuntu. No easy way to install as a dual boot unless I want to mess around with custom paritions. Also, GNOME sucks ass, but Ubuntu seems way more polished than Mint.

        I did get mint on a mini PC I have running through my TV. But audio wasn't working, so that took a while to sort out. And the onscreen keyboard does nothing on the lock screen. So unpolished, and I have no idea why it's recommended "for beginners" when it feels unfinished.

        With windows, there's no messing around. Everything just works. And I fucking hate that I feel forced to choose a miserable, hacky, terminal-based experience with countless hours of installing shit through commands... Or a smooth, reliable, easy one with bloatware and spying on the backend. Goddammit!

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        Gonna be a useless recommend, but try Fedora or Bazzite (Fedora Silverblue gaming with tweaks to make it easier).

        I've had some friends with similar complaints about Mint having one off issues with hardware, which is usually because its downstream Ubuntu which means kernel support can be all over the place.

        Fedora is probably best bang for buck in latest stable release without entering the realm of unstable rolling like Arch. Really the only thing I've found that it lacks is more varied support for ARM boards out of box and a cross compile package for ARM from x86.

        By default it does have a slightly annoying repo setup because software that isn't FOSS ends up on RPMFusion which you have to enable as a user, which is why I suggest Bazzite, which also uses the immutable Linux design which makes it much easier to prevent from breaking or fixing by rolling back a change.

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          Use my PC for gaming and RTX so Windows only I'm afraid.

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            https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-harassment-inappropriate-conduct-women-microsoft-jeffrey-epstein-2021-5

            You're right, it's really hard to fill the shoes of someone who abuses their power and position to try to hook up with women.

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            Not that hard unfortunately. I'm sure someone up to the task can fill his shoes no problem

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              Is there an easy way to port all my stuff to Linux? I would not have made the switch in the past, but all the good will I attributed to Microsoft is pretty much gone. I’ve heard Mint is petty easy to hop onto?

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                Jumped to linux for a test on an old laptop, currently on windows on my main PC but got parts on the way for a new build that's going to be Linux.

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                  I upgraded last year, have lost no functionality

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                  Upgraded to Linux or Windows 11?

                  Because nobody is claiming you'll lose functionality with Windows 11, so your post seems to imply Linux but I'm unsure.

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                    Is there an easy way to port all my stuff to Linux? I would not have made the switch in the past, but all the good will I attributed to Microsoft is pretty much gone. I’ve heard Mint is petty easy to hop onto?

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                    I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

                    I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

                    The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

                    How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

                    Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

                    Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

                    I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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                      Man, I really tried today to get Linux on my Framework laptop.

                      I can't believe how goddamn frustrating the experience has been, and I've dabbled in Linux for decades.

                      I try Mint. Install as a dual boot... Installation done. Reboot. Straight into Windows. Check partitions and nothing has changed.

                      Try again. All seems fine. Boot. Some error screen that won't let me get into Mint.

                      Do this like four more times with no luck.

                      Tried Ubuntu. No easy way to install as a dual boot unless I want to mess around with custom paritions. Also, GNOME sucks ass, but Ubuntu seems way more polished than Mint.

                      I did get mint on a mini PC I have running through my TV. But audio wasn't working, so that took a while to sort out. And the onscreen keyboard does nothing on the lock screen. So unpolished, and I have no idea why it's recommended "for beginners" when it feels unfinished.

                      With windows, there's no messing around. Everything just works. And I fucking hate that I feel forced to choose a miserable, hacky, terminal-based experience with countless hours of installing shit through commands... Or a smooth, reliable, easy one with bloatware and spying on the backend. Goddammit!

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                      I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

                      I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

                      The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

                      How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

                      Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

                      Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

                      I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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                        Linux doesn't support VR.

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                        steamVR works on it

                        of course, the only good VR game is Alyx and once you finish that it's only tech demos and chat rooms - nothing else really worth the bother of strapping a monitor to your face.

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                        • ? Guest

                          Use my PC for gaming and RTX so Windows only I'm afraid.

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                          Linux would still be a good option. The driver isn't as simple as AMD but not nearly as complicated as you would think. Unless you're a Destiny 2, Fortnite, or League player you wouldn't have any issues gaming either.

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                            Made the switch over a year ago. No regrets, everything works as I would want it to.

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                            • lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

                              No, I do not plan to jump to Linux, which doesn't play many games still without a lot of headaches. Any other questions?

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                              Yes, I do have questions, why?

                              why do you care about those games so much when 90% (actually more I think) work perfectly and the few that don't fail because they have malware?

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                              • ttangko@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                I'd consider switching if somebody spoonfed me into being able to use/know it's basics.

                                I am currently way too overstimulated with switching to privacy-focused and less (US-)corpo-reigned alternatives (like lemmy instead of reddit)

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                                I have 15 years of experience and am willing to do infinite of that on matrix.

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                                • ? Guest

                                  Use my PC for gaming and RTX so Windows only I'm afraid.

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                                  Already fiddling around enough with tge stuff I do with my PC which I installed Win11 on and I am in the EU meaning less BS than the US version (no forced upgrades, no ads (as described by US citizens) and so on).

                                  I use Debian on my server as it's a tool. Same for my pc. And I have a steamdeck.
                                  And every tool has it's worth no matter if it's made from shitty chinesium or baller titanium.
                                  I like the way Windows handles most things and I prefer it over having to fiddle with the way every Linux distro does it's own thing (and I will never use Ubuntu).

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                                  • A [email protected]

                                    I went with Mint but I'm thinking about KDE (or maybe KDE flavored Arch? Idk I'm new) on my second computer. Pretty painless?

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                                    I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

                                    I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

                                    The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

                                    How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

                                    Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

                                    Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

                                    I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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                                    • B [email protected]

                                      Jumping to Linux for sure. The hardest part is going to be finding time to learn it first...

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                                      I do infinite free troubleshooting/support on matrix, and I have 15 years of experience, feel free to reach out!

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Start with something simple like Linux Mint. You can run it in a VM, if you want to "try before you buy".

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                                        I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

                                        I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

                                        The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

                                        How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

                                        Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

                                        Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

                                        I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          Your experience is not invalid, but It's fucked up that you're giving Windows credit for "just working" when Windows doesn't even try to support dual booting. In fact the reason Linux is having so much trouble is because it has to tiptoe so that Windows doesn't break.

                                          If you don't like Gnome or Mint Cinnamon, why not try KDE? Something like Kubuntu, perhaps? I use Fedora KDE myself.

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                                          Couldnt OP use the boot loader feature of Windows and add their distro as anotger option?

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