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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

    I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

    I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

    The mere fact that it generates a new system for you on update and lets you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

    How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

    Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

    Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lmde is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

    I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

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    Thank you for you detailed response! I think something like Bazzite would be more up my alley based on what you said. Something that is hard to mess up is something I’d be more comfortable with for sure.

    I appreciate your offer for troubleshooting help as well!

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    • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

      Been on linux for years :3

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      Well, then this question wasn't really for you then?

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        That update is still is preview curently. The stable branch is still on Plasma 5

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        Oh my bad.

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          Linux is fine. Ive been using it since before ubuntu was invented. But Windows has the most goddamn computer games.

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          The vast majority of which now run fine on linux with proton.

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            Thank you for you detailed response! I think something like Bazzite would be more up my alley based on what you said. Something that is hard to mess up is something I’d be more comfortable with for sure.

            I appreciate your offer for troubleshooting help as well!

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            Make sure to not to choose steam gaming mode when you download it, it makes it a console like experience!

            my matrix account is on my profile

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            • B [email protected]

              Bought my wife a framework laptop, slapped fedora on it and have been helping her make the switch. So far so good other than Obsidian not working the same as OneNote.

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              I recommend trying out zim, I love it!

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              • C [email protected]

                If I can still game. I might just move to Linux. But also am enjoying pricing out a windows 11 build with my imaginary budget.

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                The only things that don't work at this point have actual malware as a mandatory requirement

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                  I have an ad hoc media server on 10. If it's super working, you can bet I will replace it with something other than Microsoft. Unless work requires it, everything I use is Linux, Android, or Apple based. I don't hate Windows, I just like everything else more.

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                  • celeste@kbin.earthC [email protected]

                    Is this something that's relatively fool proof to do? I'm very good at imagining disasters. That's the big mental block I got when I thought about dual booting before.

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                    If you install ventoy on a usb and put windows and bazzite on it, you can easily switch between things.

                    i have 15 years of experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot on matrix

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                      I play many kinds of games. Using a Windows emulator in Linux doesn't count as "running on Linux"

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                      Wine sometimes gains performace over windows though, so why do you care?

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                      • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

                        The only things that don't work at this point have actual malware as a mandatory requirement

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                        I’m sure WarThunder is included in that.

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                          This sounds like October's problem.

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                            Use my PC for gaming and RTX so Windows only I'm afraid.

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                            Sooo, I'm in the same boat. Only, I sold my GPU expecting to get an upgrade and then didn't for a long while - which is when I decided to make the switch to Linux, just to see how things go.

                            Now I added the GPU and - with issues - managed to get gaming going. It's fine, I think. Played Hogwarts Legacy yesterday for a couple of hours. Got a 7800x3d and RX 9070 XT, with everything on Ultra (including Ray Tracing) and upscaling disabled, my GPU would be sitting between 80 and 100% utilisation, but FPS was very comfortable (don't have a counter so don't know exactly how many, but it was smooth).

                            HOWEVER, after a couple of hours my main monitor turned off and the other one turned... green. I think the graphics driver crashed? Not sure, honestly. Anyway, after a reboot everything was fine. Overall, I had a nice four hour-long session yesterday.

                            I guess what I'm saying is - give it a go! KDE is beautiful (do recommend Garuda Linux just for the design choices, but they also have A TONNE of "I'm a noob, help" features pre-configured), gaming is fine, you might enjoy it. And if you don't, just switch back to Windows.

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                              I run Linux on a small mini pc for some casual browsing.

                              I run windows on my main pc.

                              As long as some kernel anticheat (fortnite, cod, etc...) doesn't run on Linux, I won't be swapping.

                              30+y of windows use also makes me infinitely more comfortable with windows. All the complaints I always read about are totally moot for me (I understand the issue of privacy in windows. It's the price I pay to have an OS that "just works" for me) .

                              While I enjoy tinkering, Linux is a royal PITA to use if you're not used to it. I spend hours trying to figure out how to fix something that takes me 5m max in windows. I understand it's a more a me than a Linux problem. But I'm certain many people struggle with the same things.

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                                Obviously Linux is the correct choice but I fear most will simply continue to suck it up and update to W11.

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                                Obviously Linux is the correct choice

                                Spoken like a true fundamentalist, completely disconnected from reality! The top of the Linux breed!

                                Linux is not "obviously" the "correct" choice, mate. It CAN be. In CERTAIN scenarios. It's awesome if people do it, but you need to be real here.

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                                • ugjka@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                  https://massgrave.dev/

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                                  That's LTSC versions, they aren't meant for normal consumers, although you can find them if you want.

                                  Or, of course, you can use their script to just activate it.

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                                    I’m sure WarThunder is included in that.

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                                    Uhhh....

                                    https://www.protondb.com/app/236390

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                                      That's LTSC versions, they aren't meant for normal consumers, although you can find them if you want.

                                      Or, of course, you can use their script to just activate it.

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                                      They are on that website, not just only the activator

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Jumped to linux for a test on an old laptop, currently on windows on my main PC but got parts on the way for a new build that's going to be Linux.

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                                        Welcome to the other side, make sure to enjoy and use actual documentation of your software instead of random Q&A answered by 'Community Moderators' on Windows forums 🙂

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                                          Can I play the windows version. Of Microsoft realms?

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                                          Which one, Bedrock or Java?

                                          For Bedrock there is an unofficial launcher: https://flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher (Disclaimer: Never tried it)

                                          For Java there is the offical launcher: https://flathub.org/apps/com.mojang.Minecraft

                                          Alternatively, for Java, there is also the much better unofficial launchers like Prism: https://flathub.org/apps/org.prismlauncher.PrismLauncher

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