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Blog post where someone used Python quirks to evaluate false == true

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  • W [email protected]

    Python doesn't have true or false keywords, nor any other primitives by those names.

    So either you're thinking of a different language, or different identifiers, or someone assigned equal values to variables with those names and then blogged about it.

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    This changed in 3.0 to my knowledge.
    Ref: https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python3.0#f

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    • A [email protected]

      This?

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      Yes! Thanks

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      • A [email protected]

        This changed in 3.0 to my knowledge.
        Ref: https://wiki.python.org/moin/Python3.0#f

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        That change is about True and False, not true and false. If OP was thinking of the former pair, it would seem my "different identifiers" guess was correct.

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        • C [email protected]

          Does anyone remember an old blog post where someone used various Python language hacks to override boolean primitives, such that the statement false == true evaluated as true? I'm 90% sure it was python, but maybe it was some other language.

          I've been looking for that post recently, but haven't had any luck.

          Thanks to antagonistic for finding it! I guess it was less of an "exploit", and more of a "please don't touch the loaded foot-gun"

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          The builtin names are True and False and they became keywords a while back. true and false are just ordinary variables that you can set to whatever you want.

          Meanwhile, in Forth:

          : 2 3 ; \ define 2 as 3
          2 2 + .  6 ok   \ shows that 2+2 is now 6
          
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          • L [email protected]

            Maybe they did "False is True" because they're both the same Python object?

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            I just checked and they aren't.

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              I just checked and they aren't.

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              wrote last edited by [email protected]
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              Maybe they defined them as variable names instead?

              Or they could have just changed the language. Do you remember them compiling or editing C? (Python is usually run on cpython)

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              • L [email protected]

                Maybe they defined them as variable names instead?

                Or they could have just changed the language. Do you remember them compiling or editing C? (Python is usually run on cpython)

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                True is False gives false in Python 2.7.18 as well as 3.x. But, in 2.x, they aren't keywords, so you can say True=False=5 and then they are both the same object.

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                • S [email protected]

                  True is False gives false in Python 2.7.18 as well as 3.x. But, in 2.x, they aren't keywords, so you can say True=False=5 and then they are both the same object.

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                  I really need to stop trusting how durable this language is.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    I feel like you hear fuckery like that more in JavaScript.

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                    Wat

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                    • S [email protected]

                      The builtin names are True and False and they became keywords a while back. true and false are just ordinary variables that you can set to whatever you want.

                      Meanwhile, in Forth:

                      : 2 3 ; \ define 2 as 3
                      2 2 + .  6 ok   \ shows that 2+2 is now 6
                      
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                      God I hated that about Python. Why tf we capitalizing True and False?

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                        God I hated that about Python. Why tf we capitalizing True and False?

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                        all builtin constants are capitalised.

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                        • undefined@lemmy.hogru.chU [email protected]

                          God I hated that about Python. Why tf we capitalizing True and False?

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                          They are constants, like None, which has always been around.

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                          • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                            all builtin constants are capitalised.

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                            All… five of them!

                            The other 7 are all lowercase. (One of you ignore site)

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                              All… five of them!

                              The other 7 are all lowercase. (One of you ignore site)

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                              yeah but dunders usually aren't included in counts

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                              • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                                all builtin constants are capitalised.

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                                And they also don't follow the conventions for constants otherwise, which are all caps.

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                                  And they also don't follow the conventions for constants otherwise, which are all caps.

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                                  i think we're talking about different things.

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