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  • C [email protected]

    It's meant to replace people's text messaging apps with .i imal barriers to entry. People's existing SMS/MMS contacts aren't stored by user account names, but by phone number.

    When I added Signal to my device, I was able to open up my existing contacts and go.

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    They used to allow their client to be used to send unsecured SMS. Then they stopped. Whatever they thought they were doing, they killed the simplest path to onboarding laypeople they had. I kinda gave up on signal after that.

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      Loops.video isn't accepting new users atm. Even if it was, I got in on early signup and I have next to zero functionality out of it rn. Just informing the curious masses

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      Loops isnt even federated or open source yet. Deleted my account

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        Tech-savvy content creators, sure...

        Your average content creator that wants to make minecraft videos? Unrealistic.

        I hate the monopoly youtube has, but all of the federated alternatives have a learning curve the general public isn't willing to deal with.

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        Not to mention it lacks any (ethical) monetization options. And the app is absolutely rudimentary, lacking even basic functionality.

        Framasoft made it clear they don't want to make it a Youtube alternative though, however it could be through plugins. So there'd have to be a company or cooperative using it as a base to build upon, which is actually realistic. Especially European ones; not because Asia wouldn't be interested in being more independent on the US as well, but because Framasoft is from France and Europe actively works towards this goal anyway with lots of money behind it.

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        • argoniantradwife@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          May I recommend NewPipe on android? It's a proxy for YouTube/Bandcamp/Plus a bunch of other stuff including Peertube. As a creator, Peertube is nice, but yea, using it as a full time video watching platform just isn't viable rn unfortunately.

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          NewPipe is awful for Peertube. You have to add AND SEARCH every single instance manually. It's only useful if there is a creator on a specific instance that you specifically want to watch.

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            Thank you, this covers everything I could have thought of!

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              I'm not really all that invested in trying out Friendica, because Facebook is basically the exact sort of social network service that I really don't give a darn about. I wanted to check it anyway, but the only tangible information on what Friendica is about is the project/marketing page. I can't browse the instances. If I go to your massive social platform, the last thing I want to see is just a brick wall of a login page. Then I looked at fedidb and... um, those aren't huge user numbers.

              So I guess I'll keep posting on the services that seem more sensible to me, like Mastodon, Pixelfed and Lemmy.

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                Signal is centralized, loops is closed source and not accepting new users.

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                • lazycog@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

                  There isn't much information about "Sup", but if I had to guess it could be that dansup is making sup app with XMPP(rotocol) as the messaging protocol.

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                  Originally it was supposed to be ActivityPub based, but recently the posted something about it being for XMPP, Matrix and IRC as well 🤷‍♂️ Maybe they decided to fork Pidgin 😂

                  IMHO Sup. isn't going to happen. They will have their hands more than full with Pixelfed's new popularity and maybe Loops.

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                    what about diaspora?

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                    D* generally isn't, excepting the few instances that also speak AP.

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                      Where is matrix?

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                        Where is matrix?

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                        Hidden inside the whatsapp->signal box in tiny faint font. I was wondering why there isn't a big "Discord -> Matrix"

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                        • lazycog@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

                          Yeah.. I'm bit afraid of "kbin Ernest Effect" (not sure what a proper term is) where personal issues pile up and the sole head developer just disappears.

                          Haven't followed dansup much but from what I understand he is much more open to pull requests and listening to the community, but time will tell. Right now I appreciate and love his effort, giving, and the impact on fediverse he is brining.

                          The kickstarter was a good idea.

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                          Given that I’ve waited 3 weeks to join his smaller instance of pixelfed.art, I can tell things are already piling up. I am hoping the kickstarter does help.

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                            Signal is centralized, loops is closed source and not accepting new users.

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                            Loops will be open sourced later they say.

                            Is Loops open source?
                            It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

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                              Loops.video isn't accepting new users atm. Even if it was, I got in on early signup and I have next to zero functionality out of it rn. Just informing the curious masses

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                              Yeah it’s no where near ready for mass adoption. It’s made a couple improvements, but it crashes every time I try to leave a comment.

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                                Loops will be open sourced later they say.

                                Is Loops open source?
                                It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

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                                That really is not a satisfying answer. It is incredibly nebulous and even if it did have a nice definition I guarantee most software developers will tell you a lot of software rarely reaches that state.

                                I can see why they might want to avoid 1000 GitHub issues bike shedding things but they could open source the code and just not have open contribution

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                                  I already done my part. I only keep WhatsApp for professional reasons (and barely use it) but the rest is already done. 😁

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                                    An change your email to protonmail or tutamail. Starve those gmails, outlooks, iCloud’s and etc

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                                      Ok, downloaded peertube (because to help with Google and YouTube) looked around...
                                      Um, is there not too much to look at right now? Are the people I normally watch on YouTube unable to be seen on peertube?
                                      Don't get me wrong, all about decentralized everything but if the people I like aren't there I'm feeling a bit up a creek.

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                                      The app is not really that great yet. I suggest to check this page out for content creators on PeerTube: https://peertube.wtf/home and also this list: https://lemmy.wtf/post/15810205

                                      If you are also looking for a PeerTube server to register on, I suggest you look here: https://lemmy.wtf/post/15816115

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                                        Peertube is more like a "Proof Of Concept". In reality, most content creators will not switch to it (or even care enough to learn about it).

                                        This isn't like the reddit --> Lemmy transition, where you switch from Stranger Group A to Stranger Group B. If creators aren't moving, there will be no transition. And, unlike with social media posts that you can repost, you can't even reupload Youtube videos because you'll get copyright take down notices (that the instance owner will legally have to comply with).

                                        Btw, Peertube federates with other Peertube instances, it's not a front-end for Youtube.

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                                        There will definitely be few content creators who post to PeerTube, if they are dependent on ad revenue. Those creators that are not, have a much easier time posting to PeerTube, because they essentially expand their reach.

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                                          An change your email to protonmail or tutamail. Starve those gmails, outlooks, iCloud’s and etc

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                                          Protonmail aren't necessarily worthy of the support, look up the recent news about them

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