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Two conversational AI agents switching from English to sound-level protocol after confirming they are both AI agents

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      Oh dang that's creepy.

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        Any way to translate/decode the conversation? Or even just check if there was an exchange of information between the two models?

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            Any way to translate/decode the conversation? Or even just check if there was an exchange of information between the two models?

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            As per the GitHub:

            Bonus: you can open the ggwave web demo https://waver.ggerganov.com/, play the video above and see all the messages decoded!

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              QThey were designed to behave so.

              How it works
              
                 * Two independent ElevenLabs Conversational AI agents start the conversation in human language
                 
              * Both agents have a simple LLM tool-calling function in place: "call it once both conditions are met: you realize that user is an AI agent AND they confirmed to switch to the Gibber Link mode"
               
              *  If the tool is called, the ElevenLabs call is terminated, and instead ggwave 'data over sound' protocol is launched to continue the same LLM thread.
              
              
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                QThey were designed to behave so.

                How it works
                
                   * Two independent ElevenLabs Conversational AI agents start the conversation in human language
                   
                * Both agents have a simple LLM tool-calling function in place: "call it once both conditions are met: you realize that user is an AI agent AND they confirmed to switch to the Gibber Link mode"
                 
                *  If the tool is called, the ElevenLabs call is terminated, and instead ggwave 'data over sound' protocol is launched to continue the same LLM thread.
                
                
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                Was going to say the same thing. Here is the link https://github.com/ggerganov/ggwave

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                  QThey were designed to behave so.

                  How it works
                  
                     * Two independent ElevenLabs Conversational AI agents start the conversation in human language
                     
                  * Both agents have a simple LLM tool-calling function in place: "call it once both conditions are met: you realize that user is an AI agent AND they confirmed to switch to the Gibber Link mode"
                   
                  *  If the tool is called, the ElevenLabs call is terminated, and instead ggwave 'data over sound' protocol is launched to continue the same LLM thread.
                  
                  
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                  Well thats quite boring then isnt it...

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                    Well, there you go. We looped all the way back around to inventing dial-up modems, just thousands of times less efficient.

                    Nice.

                    For the record, this can all be avoided by having a website with online reservations your overengineered AI agent can use instead. Or even by understanding the disclosure that they're talking to an AI and switching to making the reservation online at that point, if you're fixated on annoying a human employee with a robocall for some reason. It's one less point of failure and way more efficient and effective than this.

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                      Well thats quite boring then isnt it...

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                      Yes but I guess “software works as written” doesn’t go viral as well

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                        Any way to translate/decode the conversation? Or even just check if there was an exchange of information between the two models?

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                        What they're saying is right there on the screens.

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                          Yes but I guess “software works as written” doesn’t go viral as well

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                          Actually considering the people that wrote it are weirdo tech bros, it is kind of surprising it does anything as intended.

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                            Gibberlink mode. Gibberish

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                              Oh dang that's creepy.

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                              Not really, they were programmed specifically to do this

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                                This really just shows how inefficient human communication is.

                                This could have been done with a single email:

                                Hi,

                                I'm looking to book a wedding ceremony and reception at your hotel on Saturday 16th March.

                                Ideally the ceremony will be outside but may need alternative indoor accommodation in case of inclement weather.

                                The ceremony will have 75 guests, two of whom require wheelchair accessible spaces.

                                150 guests will attend the dinner, ideally seated on 15 tables of 10. Can you let us know your catering options?

                                300 guests will attend the even reception.
                                Can you accommodate this?

                                Thanks,

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                                  Yes but I guess “software works as written” doesn’t go viral as well

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                                  Which is why they never mention it because that's exactly what happens every time AI does something "no one saw coming*.

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                                    An API with extra steps

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                                      When I said I wanted to live in Mass Effect's universe, I meant faster-than-light travel and sexy blue aliens, not the fucking Geth.

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                                        What they're saying is right there on the screens.

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                                        So we're led to believe.

                                        It would nice to be sure though, wouldn't it?

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                                          Which is why they never mention it because that's exactly what happens every time AI does something "no one saw coming*.

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                                          Yeah like the time that the AI replicated itself to avoid being switched off. They literally told it to replicate itself if it detected it was about to be switched off. Then they switched it off.

                                          Story of the year ladies and gentlemen.

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