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  • D [email protected]

    What's your impression of loops so far?
    I've been underwhelmed, but I don't know if that's a platform issue or an adoption issue. Found a couple good accounts to follow, but I really want a block option to keep some accounts out of my "for you"

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    Content wise it’s underwhelming but it’s random videos. There’s more variety than Pixelfed which has an even smaller community. Eventually more trends will catch on to Lopps but I hope there’s more original content once it’s out of beta and public

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      And you will be the one deciding what constitutes hate, whose voice to cut off?

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      Hopefully. ghostrider2112 seems like a decent dude.

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        The selfhosting movement sets people free in general.

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          And you will be the one deciding what constitutes hate, whose voice to cut off?

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          You tell on yourself.

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            keeping you engaged on their terms. And their terms alone. There's no freedom

            So keeping you engaged on seemingly your own terms is acceptable and possible?

            Such articles just make me think of Bluesky with boredom and suspicion.

            The real free web is the non-existent luddite web. It should solve problems platforms solve now, but with minimal engagement possible, ideally look for a second, push a button and leave for a walk. A platform is not interested in minimizing engagement, so it should be a system where paid work necessary for its operation doesn't allow one to become a platform.

            I like talking about that, and even tried to push myself (executive dysfunction is a bitch) to try to start a little toy project of something like small web (meaning objects with basic hypertext pages with links to other objects ; with current state of an object being a result of many crud-like messages, and which are considered and which are not would be determined by signatures and chain of trust, meaning that two people with different political views could have very different versions of the same forum and both be happy ; such messages and not resulting objects would be what's stored and replicated, like something between Usenet and a version control system). But then realized I don't really want to do that, just to talk about that, and that's more complex than it reads. Maybe eventually, when I'm twice older.

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            • F [email protected]

              It is incredibly frustrating to see for example Ursula Von der Leyen preaching "EU STRONG" stuff on fucking shitter. Really? This is your way of showing how strong the EU is and we shouldn't or can't rely on USA? By posting your I'm strong message on the precise platform the US chief nazification officer owns? FFS.

              If all EU governments together decide to ditch shitter and move to mastodon instances, media follows. It's a pretty cheap measure to implement, too.

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              It makes sense if you are helping Russia or are in on isolating the USA. These parties are being funded by these billionaires in Europe. So I mean, eu strong is likely just a front.

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                John Mastodon.

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                  And you will be the one deciding what constitutes hate, whose voice to cut off?

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                  As long as we have ways to give feedback and affect the system this is a good thing.

                  The less recourse we have the more authoritarian it is though.

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                  • scripthook@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    https://loops.video/
                    You can download the Android APK or Download TestFlight for iOS to use it. You have to sign up first

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                    Thanks.

                    Signed up for it, now awaiting activation.

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                    • D [email protected]

                      What's your impression of loops so far?
                      I've been underwhelmed, but I don't know if that's a platform issue or an adoption issue. Found a couple good accounts to follow, but I really want a block option to keep some accounts out of my "for you"

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                      will be hard without some algorithm. tiktok is useful for finding content that align with my interests

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                      • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                        Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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                        I use fedilab, in part because it's the best app for peertube that I've found. But it's got great support for Mastodon and Pixelfed as well.

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                        • spaniard@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          The selfhosting movement sets people free in general.

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                          Does selfhosting movement include using non-commercial instances of apps like mastodon/lemmy/matrix etc?

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                            I've gone all-in on (properly) federated social media and I've got to say it's been a great experience. After what's happened to Twitter, with Zuck's recently stated plans for Meta, and TikTok's immediate Trump cocksucking, I realized that all privately-owned platforms are as good as compromised, no matter the utility they otherwise provide.

                            Instagram was more difficult as it was how I found out about a lot of local events, and was my primary connection to a lot of old friends, but it was worth it. I actually reach out and talk to those friends who I previously just followed. It's restored some actually connection that social media had stripped away, and I find myself avoiding the endless scroll I used to get caught in.

                            I'm still working on evacuating YouTube, but using RSS feeds to be more deliberate about whose uploads I'm notified about has helped a ton.

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                            • ellvix@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                              Hopefully. ghostrider2112 seems like a decent dude.

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                              lol thanks from a white guy in Ohio, USA that loves all, even those who hate.

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                                Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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                                  It is incredibly frustrating to see for example Ursula Von der Leyen preaching "EU STRONG" stuff on fucking shitter. Really? This is your way of showing how strong the EU is and we shouldn't or can't rely on USA? By posting your I'm strong message on the precise platform the US chief nazification officer owns? FFS.

                                  If all EU governments together decide to ditch shitter and move to mastodon instances, media follows. It's a pretty cheap measure to implement, too.

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                                  EU really should ban Twitter. US social media has turned out to be incredibly dangerous with algorithm manipulation with the best evidence being the US and their election and people.

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                                  • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

                                    I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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                                    I hear echo chamber brought up a lot but never really have seen examples of a place that doesn't have an echo chamber.

                                    I think that's just the natural result of people forming communities as opposed seeking out battle grounds for adversaries.

                                    Only thing that can be done is offering people the tools to freely form as many communities as they want with the main barrier being who feels compelled to join the new echo chamber community.

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                                    • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

                                      Niche communities are awesome ! Sadly reddit is still the king in this aspect.

                                      Maybe in a few years lemmy will reach that level or even surpass it... One can dream.

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                                      It is interesting that forums had less people but felt very active and didn't need the millions of people that places like modern day social media do.

                                      And I think big part of it is the presentation of material with threads that get bumped up when people comment and can keep going on for years.

                                      In reddit type social media a thread is considered dead after like a day or less, so needing a new one even if it is the same topic to start up conversation again. Even more the case for one off comment type social media like mastodon.

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                                        Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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                                        Guess you never used forums.

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                                          Just being here has felt freeing in and of itself. No ads omg. It's beautiful. I like the slower pace here too, it doesn't bother me to see the same post on the main page from a few days ago. I think it's a nice break for my senses actually.

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                                          Less bots, more genuine conversations, it’s also not as fast-paced as other social medias.

                                          It’s great. It feels like a forum from back in late 2000s / early 2010 and I like it

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