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Signal's Meredith Whittaker says AI agents doing tasks on users' behalf pose security and privacy risks and refers to their use as “putting your brain in a jar”.

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      Well put

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        huh didn’t know she was this good looking. Also, fair points.

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          Well put

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          hero material.

          my family contributes $5 monthly to the signal foundation. consider doing the same if you are able.

          the entire family uses it personally and for business so its among the best montly contribs we make.

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            Oh my god I haven't seen Guy in years! He's such a wonderful guy (heh). I think our last interaction was on Google's G+. 😳

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              huh didn’t know she was this good looking. Also, fair points.

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              Do you qualify all women you meet this way or only those involved in your interests?

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                Do you qualify all women you meet this way or only those involved in your interests?

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                Whats wrong with saying someone is good looking?

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                  Whats wrong with saying someone is good looking?

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                  It implies that that's a quality you should be judging people on, even if their looks have no bearing on the situation.

                  Of all the things or even subjects you could have made a comment on in this thread, you left one on the looks of a woman.

                  She doesn't need your validation. Other Lemmy users don't need your opinion on who's attractive. It's meaningless and detracts from the conversation.

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                    It implies that that's a quality you should be judging people on, even if their looks have no bearing on the situation.

                    Of all the things or even subjects you could have made a comment on in this thread, you left one on the looks of a woman.

                    She doesn't need your validation. Other Lemmy users don't need your opinion on who's attractive. It's meaningless and detracts from the conversation.

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                    That’s taking my comment waaayyy to serieus

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                      I mean shes not wrong, but imagine I use this to do my bullshit day job so I can work on what I really want to. I would totally use this to get some rube to pay me for a job while I GameDev or something. Or at least some excel sheet monkey could probably do that I know these can't do my job.

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                        I mean shes not wrong, but imagine I use this to do my bullshit day job so I can work on what I really want to. I would totally use this to get some rube to pay me for a job while I GameDev or something. Or at least some excel sheet monkey could probably do that I know these can't do my job.

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                        The problem being: Why pay you, if all they'd need is an AI agent?

                        Technology like this will not be used by the workers to prevent having to do bullshit jobs, it will be used by employers to prevent paying people.

                        In a world that lets everybody profit from the advances we make, that would be a good thing, but in the world I see us living in, that'll just grow the gap between poor and rich.

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                          Why Signal is not in f-droid? Is there a statement from them about it? What I know is only in Google store . And talking to much about privacy and not being in a f-droid repo, is ironic

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                            This is the primary reason I've not given agents more power than something extremely controlled (I.e. only a function to turn on/off the lights). As I was always concerned that these generational models might accidentally do something dumb or annoying, let alone something that might be illegal or harmful.

                            I don't really see how anyone would ask AI to complete something completely autonomously at this stage, without oversight.

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                              Why Signal is not in f-droid? Is there a statement from them about it? What I know is only in Google store . And talking to much about privacy and not being in a f-droid repo, is ironic

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                              It's available on F-droid through the Guardian Project repo.

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                                The problem being: Why pay you, if all they'd need is an AI agent?

                                Technology like this will not be used by the workers to prevent having to do bullshit jobs, it will be used by employers to prevent paying people.

                                In a world that lets everybody profit from the advances we make, that would be a good thing, but in the world I see us living in, that'll just grow the gap between poor and rich.

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                                Its out now. I'm talking about taking advantage of this toilet bowl before the last flush. We never got rid of Citizens United. We never controlled these corporations. As a people, we were content until just about this point as a whole. Unless everyone marches to DC. The tech bros are getting their little kingdoms.

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                                  It's available on F-droid through the Guardian Project repo.

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                                  since when? that's good news to me!

                                  the alternatives seem to be Molly on the main repo and Signal-FOSS on TwinHelix's

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                                    since when? that's good news to me!

                                    the alternatives seem to be Molly on the main repo and Signal-FOSS on TwinHelix's

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                                    Showed up maybe a month ago?

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                                      This is the primary reason I've not given agents more power than something extremely controlled (I.e. only a function to turn on/off the lights). As I was always concerned that these generational models might accidentally do something dumb or annoying, let alone something that might be illegal or harmful.

                                      I don't really see how anyone would ask AI to complete something completely autonomously at this stage, without oversight.

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                                      Good for image classification and tagging to automate sorting all the images off my phone. Some fun chatbots to soundboard ideas off. Anything involving credit cards, bank details, personal info near the internet? That's a big nope.

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                                        "A computer can never be held accountable - therefore a computer must never make a management decision". - IBM Training manual, 1979.

                                        So jazzed to live here in the future where we have AI making insurance denials and deciding drone targets! /s

                                        Good on her for standing against the Silicon Valley doom hype machine.

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                                          AI autoresponders are developing into artificial personas that interact with the world on our behalf, which we won't even pay attention to until the police show up because one of them threatened to assassinate the president or something, and we'll say, "That wasn't me," and they'll be like yuh-huh it was.

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