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How to have a boring and low-maintenance system?

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    Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

    Context:

    I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

    I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

    I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

    Do you have any other recommendations?

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    Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is my pick.

    I've got two study laptops and apart from Tailscale giving me some grief very recently with DNS resolution, I literally haven't had any problems with either machine. Both have been going for 1.5 years.

    I like the LMDE route for the DE already having pretty decent defaults and not requiring much tweaking from the get-go. Xfce (as it ships by default in Debian) absolutely works, but I end up spending an hour theming it and adding panel applets and rearranging everything so that it... ends up looking similar to Cinnamon anyway, because default Xfce looks horrible in my opinion

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    • C [email protected]

      Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

      Context:

      I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

      I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

      I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

      Do you have any other recommendations?

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      avoid nixos

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      • C [email protected]

        Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

        Context:

        I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

        I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

        I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

        Do you have any other recommendations?

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        I use fedora and Ansible to fix things I want to be different all the time. After I install the OS I run Ansible pull and it makes all the changes I want

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        • C [email protected]

          Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

          Context:

          I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

          I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

          I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

          Do you have any other recommendations?

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          Debian. Unattended upgrades. Maybe flatpaks if your (GUI) stuff isn't on debian

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          • C [email protected]

            Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

            Context:

            I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

            I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

            I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

            Do you have any other recommendations?

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            I use pop os. works out of the box.

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            • C [email protected]

              Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

              Context:

              I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

              I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

              I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

              Do you have any other recommendations?

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              Debian stable is as hassle-free as you'll get.

              It sounds like your issue is more with having to migrate to a new laptop. Firstly - buy laptops that are more linux compatible and you'll have fewer niggles like with sound, suspend and drivers.

              Secondly - use "dpkg --get-selections" and "--set-selections" to transfer your list of installed software across to your new laptop. Combined with transferring your /home directory, user migration can be speeded up.

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                I don’t understand the answer though.

                The answer is if you're depending on software that is closed and out of your control (aka. you have an Nvidia card) then you should have support expectations around that hardware and linux.

                There are no GTS ISOs because we don't have a reliable way to make ISOs (the ones we have no are workarounds) but that should be finished soon.

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                Thanks for clarifying, Jorge. I wish I lived in a perfect world where all hardware and software follow FOSS principles. Until then I will have to rely on the other distros that embrace an imperfect reality. I cannot reconcile how Bluefin targets developers and NVidia, unfortunately is not something many of those developers can afford to ignore. Good luck with your project!

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                  Debian stable is as hassle-free as you'll get.

                  It sounds like your issue is more with having to migrate to a new laptop. Firstly - buy laptops that are more linux compatible and you'll have fewer niggles like with sound, suspend and drivers.

                  Secondly - use "dpkg --get-selections" and "--set-selections" to transfer your list of installed software across to your new laptop. Combined with transferring your /home directory, user migration can be speeded up.

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                  Firstly - buy laptops that are more linux compatible

                  This is the thing: The laptop is from Starlabs, supposedly made for Linux...

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                    Thanks for clarifying, Jorge. I wish I lived in a perfect world where all hardware and software follow FOSS principles. Until then I will have to rely on the other distros that embrace an imperfect reality. I cannot reconcile how Bluefin targets developers and NVidia, unfortunately is not something many of those developers can afford to ignore. Good luck with your project!

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                    I cannot reconcile

                    It's like a saving throw in a video game, most times you can make it, but every once in a while you don't lol.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Those who don't have the time or appetite to tweak/modify/troubleshoot their computers: What is your setup for a reliable and low-maintenance system?

                      Context:

                      I switched to Linux a couple of years ago (Debian 11/12). It took me a little while to learn new software and get things set up how I wanted, which I did and was fine.

                      I've had to replace my laptop though and install a distro (Fedora 41) with a newer kernel to make it work but even so, have had to fix a number of issues. This has also coincided with me having a lot less free time and being less interested in crafting my system and more interested in using it efficiently for tasks and creativity. I believe Debian 13 will have a new enough kernel to support my hardware out of the box and although it will still be a hassle for me to reinstall my OS again, I like the idea of getting it over with, starting again with something thoroughly tested and then not having to touch anything for a couple of years. I don't need the latest software at all times.

                      I know there are others here who have similar priorities, whether due to time constraints, age etc.

                      Do you have any other recommendations?

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                      every system is only as stable as the user. anybody can break Debian or any other "stable" distro of renown the second they go tinkering, adding PPAs or anything else

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                        So here's the thing - if you can think of it, I've already tried it 😅 I spent a week and a half sifting through countless forum posts on Apple's own support center, Macrumors, reddit, and a host of other forums.

                        The "Wake for network access" setting was the first thing I disabled after I wiped and reinstalled the OS. Among a number of other settings. Still got the fucking "EC.DarkPME (Maintenance)" process firing off every 45 seconds, no matter what I did, causing excessive insomnia and draining the battery within 12 hours.

                        What I ended up doing was using a little tool called "FluTooth" to automatically disable wifi/Bluetooth on sleep (the built-in OS settings did fuck-all), set hibernationmode to 25, and a few other tweaks with pmset that currently escape me.

                        I put a solid 7 full charge cycles on the brand new battery before it finally calmed the fuck down.

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                        I feel you. I still use an intel macbook with tweaks i cannot remember plus 3rd party utils like Turbo Boost switcher. That experience alone has kept me from upgrading to newer models.

                        In retrospect my powerbook g4 (Ti) and os 9 was peak computing.

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                          I feel you. I still use an intel macbook with tweaks i cannot remember plus 3rd party utils like Turbo Boost switcher. That experience alone has kept me from upgrading to newer models.

                          In retrospect my powerbook g4 (Ti) and os 9 was peak computing.

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                          My Thinkpad T14 running Linux Mint (LMDE) gets better battery life on "Suspend" than that damn MBP does when hibernated. It's an A1706, too, of ALL the variants it could be 😂

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                            My Thinkpad T14 running Linux Mint (LMDE) gets better battery life on "Suspend" than that damn MBP does when hibernated. It's an A1706, too, of ALL the variants it could be 😂

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                            Oh no. Maybe some Incense to cleanse the demons? (⊙_⊙)

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                              Oh no. Maybe some Incense to cleanse the demons? (⊙_⊙)

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                              That thread was a godsend. Turning off tcpkeepalive was the other one that I couldn't remember, but that seemed to help out as well.

                              My wife has had multiple MacBooks over the years (I set up her old 2009-era A1278 with Linux Mint for the kids to do homework), and after I "fixed" it and talked about the longer wake-up process, she told me that's what she was used to already and the "super fast wake up" was a very new thing for her when she bought it. So no complaints from her, and the battery performs better. Win/win.

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                                That thread was a godsend. Turning off tcpkeepalive was the other one that I couldn't remember, but that seemed to help out as well.

                                My wife has had multiple MacBooks over the years (I set up her old 2009-era A1278 with Linux Mint for the kids to do homework), and after I "fixed" it and talked about the longer wake-up process, she told me that's what she was used to already and the "super fast wake up" was a very new thing for her when she bought it. So no complaints from her, and the battery performs better. Win/win.

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                                That is so good and satisfying to hear.

                                I'm also currently almost exclusively on Linux. My Spouse has a Fedora powered Notebook with a super fast 8/16 core amd processor and loves it dearly. (Cannot remember the maker, but since the BIOS/setup was huge PITA I wont be buying from them again.) I used to love the simplicity and light-weighted -ness of apples setup, but over the years Linux systems made it far easier to use them as a "digital hub". Turns out I did not enjoy selling my soul to Satan (Oracle Virtualbox) or pay an extra 100 bucks per year (Corel Parallels) just so I could use a few windows only tools I had.

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