Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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Oh...I was interested until you said actions. What a terrible system for ci.
What's wrong w/ actions? Is there something else you prefer?
I think they're quite powerful. There are a variety of triggers, runners are fairly easy to configure (easy to scale up), and the syntax is pretty straightforward. It seems to work pretty well.
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Oh come on, it was a really big deal. M$ bought GitHub. FOSS collectively shit itself for a week
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VS Code has a fully open source base which excludes proprietary extensions and default telemetry ( kind of his AOSP is for Android)
Check here for more info:
https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/wiki/Differences-between-the-repository-and-Visual-Studio-Code
kind of how AOSP is for Android)
https://9to5google.com/2025/03/28/google-android-aosp-changes-announcement/
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Forgejo Actions is definitely not a turnkey idential-to-GitHub solution, but it's quite similar and for most not-super-complicated setups it's basically the same (for better or worse, depending on if you like GH's Actions).
As far as I remember, everything that I need works out of the box, except for Docker. In fact, just about everything Docker is somewhat quirky in Forgejo Actions.
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One mildly annoying quirk of Forgejo is that as of current, the token generated for each Actions run is not quite the same as GitHub's token. For my specific use case, if you want to upload a Docker Image to the package repository, you can not use the standard auto-generated token, which GitHub does allow you to use. Forgejo instead currently requires you generate your own app token and use that instead, as the auto-generated one lacks permissions over packages. (https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/3571)
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Depending on your infrastructure, it might just be impossible to make the various Docker-related actions (such as https://code.forgejo.org/docker/build-push-action) work. As an example, my infrastructure outlined below is one such case where those actions simply do not work.
Bare Metal (Debian 12) / ├─ Rootless Podman/ ├─ Forgejo ├─ Forgejo Runner ├─ Podman-in-Podman (Inner Podman also Rootless)/ ├─ <Actions Containers Run Here> * If you use rootful Docker with Docker-in-Docker, those actions will then work as expected. It is just that attempting to make them work with Rootless Podman (at least the version that ships with Debain 12) currently seems to be impossible.- that's really too bad, I hope that gets resolved soon
- that's a pretty old version of podman (4.3 looks like?); also, why have nested podman? My infra is something like this:
Bare Metal ├─ Rootless Podman ├─ Forgejo ├─ Rootless Forgejo Runner (planning to run on another machine entirely) ├─ <Actions Containers Run Here>I doubt the extra level of nesting is the issue though. If your issue is networking, then maybe the version of podman is the issue, since they switched out the networking layer in 5.0. I upgraded for a related reason, though I'm still getting some odd issues (mostly w/ the DNS resolver).
I haven't gotten to cross-compiling just yet, nor have I needed to build a docker image since my projects are very much in the testing phase. But maybe I'll give it a shot soon, since it's better to catch these types of issues before it becomes a bigger problem.
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kind of how AOSP is for Android)
https://9to5google.com/2025/03/28/google-android-aosp-changes-announcement/
I know
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And all of them sharing a single 26k connection, too
I heard they got upgraded to DSL
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What's wrong w/ actions? Is there something else you prefer?
I think they're quite powerful. There are a variety of triggers, runners are fairly easy to configure (easy to scale up), and the syntax is pretty straightforward. It seems to work pretty well.
Every other ci in existence you just write a command. Then if it doesn't work you run the command on your machine and fix it.
Actions are "magic" which means you have to fake the ci runner with tools and reverse engineer the action to run local debugging and if it failed you might not even fully know what was running with digging into the actions source.
GitHub provides you the tools and their "easy" until they aren't.
It's very Microsoft though. It feels like trying to write a Windows app and trying to get your random
Net environment definition to line everything up and compile in VS then hoping the same thing happens when you deploy. -
is forgejo the same thing as codeberg? it looks similar.. just curious
Foregejo : codeberg = lemmy : blahaj.zone
Forgejo being a fork of gitea
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I can forgive not knowing github is MS.
but, how in the actual fuck did you not know VS Code is MS?
do you just close your eyes and code blind all day long?
Maybe they are just getting started with learning programming, be kind.
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And VSCodium is the project that releases builds from the VS Code source code. Privacy-conscious developers should use VSCodium (which is fully FOSS) instead of Visual Studio Code (which is partially proprietary and includes tracking).
I use this on my private setup, but struggling to get tge Python language server to properly work. Apprently the VS Code one is unavailable. What do people use for this on VS Codium?
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Maybe they are just getting started with learning programming, be kind.
Ding ding ding ding ding!
Like, just BRAND NEW, leaning baby programmer! Nope, not that.
Just a guy who is starting to learn and probably going to abandon learning but is going to try anyway and is trying not to fuck up in the beginning!
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I can forgive not knowing github is MS.
but, how in the actual fuck did you not know VS Code is MS?
do you just close your eyes and code blind all day long?
Kinda harsh, NGL
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Oh come on, it was a really big deal. M$ bought GitHub. FOSS collectively shit itself for a week
Github was bought in 2018. For all we know, OP could have been 10 at the time
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Why did they get removed? I feel like I'm missing a whole backstory here.
Seemingly one of the contributors has visited a disputed region and logged into GitHub from there. By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal. But either Microsoft dragged it's feet in communicating and resolving the issue or the organic maps team was not doing their part in the process. Doesn't matter, the outcome is still worth it.
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Ding ding ding ding ding!
Like, just BRAND NEW, leaning baby programmer! Nope, not that.
Just a guy who is starting to learn and probably going to abandon learning but is going to try anyway and is trying not to fuck up in the beginning!
Keep learning and asking questions! Maybe programming isn't something for you or maybe it'll be a big pay of your life. You'll never know without giving it a try.
Please don't get discouraged by the curmudgeons. Not all of us experienced in the field have given into grouchiness.
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Ding ding ding ding ding!
Like, just BRAND NEW, leaning baby programmer! Nope, not that.
Just a guy who is starting to learn and probably going to abandon learning but is going to try anyway and is trying not to fuck up in the beginning!
If you want to use VSCode without the Microsoft bits, they actually provide that officially. VSCodium is VSCode with all the Microsoft-specific bits stripped out (or rather, not added in in the first place, at compile time). It's all open source too so you can either verify yourself or have a knowledgeable friend do an audit on your behalf.
I use VSCode at work a lot and enjoy it quite a bit. A good alternative would be to use Kate/Kwrite with all of the coding plugins and the linter plugins turned on, the experience is pretty close to VSCode/ium without store extensions.
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So wait.
GitHub is Microsoft?
I’m also very new to doing any type of programming, and also don’t remember things from last week lol. I use Kate, it’s from KDE which is from the Linux world but works on windows! They have some other good programs that also work on windows (and Mac too I think!) if you’re trying to extract yourself from there. I don’t know python very well so don’t know if Kate is the best choice compared to PyCharm for your use case, but might be a good allrounder.
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So wait.
GitHub is Microsoft?
Might check out Zed. Relatively new editor from the folks behind Atom and treesitter. Extremely fast with an excellent interface and vim mode. The second best vim mode behind Neovim.
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Going by their Mastodon account, seems they were erroneously detected as "from a US-sanctioned region" and it took too long for said error to be resolved, so they just made the switch.
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What's wrong w/ actions? Is there something else you prefer?
I think they're quite powerful. There are a variety of triggers, runners are fairly easy to configure (easy to scale up), and the syntax is pretty straightforward. It seems to work pretty well.
I prefer Gitlab CICD but there are many. Actions had a lot of potential. Then Microsoft bought GitHub and just slapped the Actions label on their CI. If you pull off the mask, it is just Azure devops.
