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  3. In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

In the latest Windows 11 preview build, Microsoft removed the “bypassnro” command, which let users skip signing into a Microsoft Account when installing Windows.

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  • R [email protected]

    Yeah, its fucking absurd. Closest option is probably a fairphone right now. They allow a bunch of degoglified options of android and a few linux options too.

    My mobile OS of choice is currently Lineageos for Microg. Makes all my apps work and protects me from google as good as possible.

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    Fairphone works in Europe, but in the US, for example, only Tmobile allows fairphones, the other carriers, while there nothing technological that prevents them fron working, the carriers being being really shit about it. And Tmovile could also become hostile with a flip of a switch. So yea, that's a huge issue, unless you want a wifi-only device.

    I fear in the future, devices will be more strictly locked down because of "terrorism" "scams" "fraud" or "criminial activity" that allows the authorities, worldwide, to control devices even more. Perhaps, computers could also face such lockdowns.

    I mean, look at drones. One harmless crash on the US whitehouse lawn triggered a lot of laws restricting them, inclusing the infamous DJI Geo-locking. One terrorisr using encrypted messaging apps to coordinate would allow governments to controll our communications.

    The future looks bleak. It's not even like 1984, the reality of dystopia is more subtle. People are being stalked by the government, while there are parties are happening all around, that is what dystopia looks like.

    China turned QR codes red to restrict people's movements on the pretenses of Covid. The US trump admin could do the same with QR code IDs to "prove you are a citizen" with checkpoints throughout the country.

    (Sorry if it kinda got offtopic, but still kinda relevent)

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    • N [email protected]

      More and more people just need to switch to Linux and grow the userbase so more and more proprietary software create Linux builds just like how Maya and Davinci Resolve are available for Linux. If your computer is a web browser, you should be on Linux. Firefox, Chrome, Edge are all on Linux

      If you're a casual photo editor, Darktable. A casual photo editor can probably be well served with GIMP or Krita. If you're a web browser and digital painter Krita. If you edit videos, Davinci Resolve and Kdenlive. Office - OnlyOffice, Libre office, WPS Office

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      Or you can always pay for Wine and help it develop. Usually popular applications work well.

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      • T [email protected]

        It's actually so bad lol. Idk what Microsoft has against - for args but it's fuckn annoying

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        It's also incredibly inconsistent, at least now that they're pushing more and more towards powershell.

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        • M [email protected]

          in the latest preview build

          i assume you didn't install today's beta release a month ago 😉

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          Install it with the English (World) region

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          • T [email protected]

            LightPhone is your best bet for a Linux phone if anyone is interested.

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            Hmmm

            I skimmed the webpage and seems like some minimalist phone, which cannot adequetely replace many functions of a modern smartphone.

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            • B [email protected]

              I tried setting up a dual boot Mint next to my Win 11 last night. Just so I can experiment with getting all the (replacement) programs of my Win 11 install to work on there… froze during install and was busy for hours getting my boot files for Win 11 back.

              I’m not a technical genius or anything and now I’m scared to try again. I assume it’s way easier if I would just rip the bandaid off and do it in one go. Sadly too much relies on me still being able to use the computer close to the way I could before. Ah well. Another day, another chance to nuke the boot files.

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              Dual boot with Windows is terrible because of how fastboot messes with the drive partitions. If you want to dual boot you will have to turn off Windows fastboot.

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              • G [email protected]

                So you're telling me 2% of new Window's users won't be forced to make an account? Neat!

                This is not about the technically savvy. The populace is being conditioned into not owning what they purchase. This will in turn make everyone's life worse.

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                Ultimately this change, while frustrating, probably doesn't change the initial value for those who fit these two categories:

                • Needs Windows
                • Cares about their privacy

                These people were already going to go out of their way to use the OOBE bypass. They still will. This is no more effort thanbit already was.

                Microsoft crossed the line already by disallowing offline account creation through their default setup process.

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                  Dual boot with Windows is terrible because of how fastboot messes with the drive partitions. If you want to dual boot you will have to turn off Windows fastboot.

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                  Thanks, I’ll look into that!

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                    #245

                    Seems an alternative, easier method was found:
                    https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered

                    Relevant part:

                    But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.

                    Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

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                      Lmao if you find an open source tool that competes with houdini, let me know. I found it extremely easy to pirate on windows, it takes a long time to find a crack on linux, if I do, it is usually out of date.

                      I have only pirated davinci resolve studio on linux and some blender addons, like 25% dont work, while I had a ton of pirated software on windows. (marvelousdesigner, embergen, houdini, davinci openfx addons like redgiant, borisfx syntheyes, touchdesigner, etc.) A lot of stuff that adds up to 1000s of dollars a month for hobby stuff that I use sporadically.

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                      Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

                      I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there's no need to crack it. I can't speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven't bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven't found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.

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                      • O [email protected]

                        Genuine question:

                        What's the point of a long password on Windows? I understand that you sometimes don't want people accessing your stuff, but at it takes to bypass that and someone access your files is booting off of a USB stick. Or do you perhaps use full disk encryption?

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                        It's mostly my penchant for longer passwords in general. I did not plan to swap up strategies for my personal PC login account. Seeing microsoft demand a shorter password than I use almost everywhere else was... not promising.

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                        • doctortofu@reddthat.comD [email protected]

                          Seems an alternative, easier method was found:
                          https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered

                          Relevant part:

                          But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.

                          Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

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                          Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you'd just pull that out of one's ass.

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                            Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

                            I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there's no need to crack it. I can't speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven't bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven't found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.

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                            Everything you're saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows

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                            • W [email protected]

                              it needs cookies and scripts. but it's just a reddit frontend, feel free to replace the domain with reddit.com or an other redlib instance

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                              Ah okay, so what I'm reading there is that it may be piratable, but a lot of software vendors don't support it, so there's a decent risk that software would just randomly stop working, which is the same problem you get with windows 10 long term. Oh well.

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                              • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you'd just pull that out of one's ass.

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                                "The bypass uses a CXH (cloud experience host) URI (Uniform Resource Identifier) string during the OOBE to invoke the hidden local account setup screen." this had to be data mined or something yeah.

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                                  It’s asinine to require me to be connected to the internet to use my computer.
                                  My work laptop was absolutely useless without the internet. There’s supposed to be a pin/password thing that lets you bypass this, but it would work maybe 30% of the time.

                                  I also don’t get why I have to give Microsoft my name and an email address for my video game machine. (I get steam and proton yada yada, but I’m often playing anything that you can barely get to work on its native system - has anyone actually got EYE : Divine Cybermancy for more than ten minutes?)

                                  Windows XP and 7 hit the mark I think. XP let you take it apart in beautiful ways, and had all kinds of wonderful eccentricities - which is also the problem, because XP was insecure af. Windows 7 got right what they figured out by Vista Service Pack 2 as far as security. Less aesthetics, less access to the internals, but also probably “better” for a normie.

                                  The rule is supposedly that every other one is good or something. Maybe 12 will be good?

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                                    L I N U X

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                                    1000 percent. I did this for myself a year ago and haven't looked back.

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                                      1000 percent. I did this for myself a year ago and haven't looked back.

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                                      I did 6 months back to linux mint. The experience is smooth

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                                        Everything you're saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows

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                                        Call it fewer options, I call it curated options. Yeah, I don't get to install every piece of software I could on windows (though that list is shrinking really fucking fast), but i also don't want to. I don't need to put energy into cracking adobe software so they can steal my licensing and farm my data to sell or train their AI on.

                                        I don't want to use a drill that only works with screws that are officially approved for DeWalt drills, and I don't want to hack a DeWalt drill to make it work with other screws. I want a drill that fits whatever screw I want. People aren't switching to Linux because of the vast amount of software available for it, it's because it's the option that actually respects us as consumers.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          I put this in another thread:
                                          It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


                                          @echo off

                                          reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

                                          shutdown /r /t 0


                                          You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

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                                          start ms-cxh:localonly

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