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Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.

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  • S [email protected]

    I monitor far-right groups pretty intensively and a good chunk of Paedophile Hunters are key organisers of said groups.

    Its also not uncommon for far-right groups to be family operations where the adults will groom their teenage children into organizing and encourage their children to date other, often older, fascist organisers.

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    Look at how much conspiracy content especially after 2016 focused on pedophilia. A lot of it. That carried over into this

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      Does a criminal arrest and conviction not matter to anyone before ganging up to take someones life?

      You would think an allegation serious enough to take someone's life would be at least charged by some law enforcement agency, many of these crimes require they are reported by law, and a mandatory arrest must happen if it is reported. There should be no way for anyone to be free, needing to be hunted, without a criminal history. No distinction is made between someone with a criminal history and someone without, the allegation has become enough to destroy reputations, careers and lives. History is full of situations where an other type of label and class with no rights or due process is created. Then it is applied to people as needed to eliminate them. With LGBT stuff specifically, you see the lines between these labels being blurred. Even in Russia they have blurred the lines between LGBT, child abuse, domestic terrorism and dangers to national security. It doesn't take much imagination to see it be applied in the U.S. QAnon was proof that anyone can be labelled by a large number of people with real actions taken to harm them, without any kind of formal process or charges. Just rumors that lead to vigilantes.

      At some point, there is no difference between that, Daniel Penny, or Luigi Manigone. From every side, we all agree that summary executions are acceptable. The end result of this is a break down of civil society as the justifications for extrajudicial murder expand to include as many things as necessary...

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      • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

        Oh. They're just gonna call people pedo and attack them even though they're not. It's extremely obvious.

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        Sad because actual paedos gonna be like "who, not me, someone cried wolf on me!"....
        As someone who was trafficked and abused with my sister and then even after she got out, I've heard them laugh about paedos caught in the news and act like they're not exactly that. Meanwhile the people who actually hurt me stayed or died free because you also see on the news how false accusations ruin innocent people's lives, so it feels like what we say as real victims not only doesn't matter but will be ignored because sexism is back full-swing and they prefer us women to be seen and not heard once again like the old days. I wish patriarchal societies weren't hell-bent on using and ending women and children to justify their means of global blackmail control.

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        • M [email protected]

          Wow, such a "hot" take. No wonder people are afraid to seek help, moron.

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          Victims are afraid to seek help in the US, because "the help" usually re-victimizes them, and protects the perpetrator.

          It's not because of me stating as much...

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          • F [email protected]

            Pretty solid way to identify the right person.

            And that's why entrapment is a legally sanctioned investigation strategy for law enforcement.

            Oh, wait, it isn't, because of all the abuses that resulted from its use.

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            It depends on how these channels are going about finding their victims for it to be considered similar.

            Remember, entrapment is based around luring someone to do something they otherwise would not have done had the operation to entrap them not occurred. If they created an account posing as a minor, then directly DM'd a person asking if they wanted to do x/y/z with a minor, that would be entrapment.

            But if they made an account claiming to be a minor on social media, and the person contacted them voluntarily, asked their age, was told it was under 18 and still continued messaging, then sent explicit photos, that's not entrapment.

            However, if they were then the people who initiated the conversation about wanting the person to come to their house / visit them somewhere, that could be considered entrapment, and the only evidence against the person that could be eligible for use in court would be the explicit material they sent without being prompted.

            It varies case-by-case, but from what I've seen, most of the larger operations tend to try and avoid entrapment-like tactics in most cases, where they only allow the other person to initiate unlawful behaviors, rather than prompting anything themselves.

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              I always knew there was something wrong with that these people were doing but couldn't exactly put my finger on it and never talked about it because people would've yelled at me and used false dillema arguments like many people who criticized them back them recieved "You support pedophiles you removed"

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              • S [email protected]

                I monitor far-right groups pretty intensively and a good chunk of Paedophile Hunters are key organisers of said groups.

                Its also not uncommon for far-right groups to be family operations where the adults will groom their teenage children into organizing and encourage their children to date other, often older, fascist organisers.

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                Unsurprising as most of the "pedophile hunters" are extremist by nature, so it makes sense why they would also subscribe to extremist ideologies like Nazism and queerphobia.

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                • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO [email protected]

                  Oh. They're just gonna call people pedo and attack them even though they're not. It's extremely obvious.

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                  They're going to attack LGBT people and say they're pedos for being LGBT.

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                  • F [email protected]

                    I always knew there was something wrong with that these people were doing but couldn't exactly put my finger on it and never talked about it because people would've yelled at me and used false dillema arguments like many people who criticized them back them recieved "You support pedophiles you removed"

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                    They caused the death of a victim before: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/apr/01/us-officials-challenge-ofcoms-risk-to-free-speech-caused-by-online-safety-laws

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Nazis: If you support LGBT you're a pedophile. And we're already coming for you.

                      People, for some fucking reason: Pedophiles get fucked, do what you want to them, erase them at any cost!!

                      "Please hold this paper target in front of your face while I shoot at it."

                      "Sounds dangerous but I see you are aiming at the paper so I should be fine."

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                      Nazis: If you support LGBT you’re a pedophile. And we’re already coming for you.

                      I'll be waiting.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        Solution bait the baiters

                        Practical solution, abandon all social interactions with strangers

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                        I'm way ahead of you in my basement of solitude.

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                          Where is this civilized society at, in the US?

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                          More democratic areas I'd say.

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                          • I [email protected]

                            Ah that's the thing, we're not civilized

                            We're about to have roving gang of Nazi vs pedos! Just attacking each other like crime gangs in the streets.

                            This is what about when young people have no future.

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                            We're definately less civilized than we used to be but there's still some degree of civility.

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                            • I [email protected]

                              Pedo accusations don't come from concerns for kids but from enpowerement to do violence and the ability to righteously attack.

                              This inversion from concern for others to desire to cause harm through paranoia derived justifications is becoming a real problem.

                              If someone steps in to stop them attacking the innocent they will claim those people are defending pedos.

                              We're going to have the stupidest of wars on our hands.

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                              We’re going to have the stupidest of wars on our hands.

                              Finally, my decades of stupid training will pay off!

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                              • A [email protected]

                                I never use /s. /s is the training wheels of online comments. /s is for cowards. Ride or die baby!

                                If anyone takes me seriously, it's their own damn fault.

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                                https://xkcd.com/1984/

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Do you have any argument as to why this matters, in any way, at all?

                                  the majority of the population doesn't identify this as being nazism. If you are looking to get more people backing your cause you cannot alienate them by appearing to be reactionary or uneducated.

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                                  So your argument rests not on truth but on populism.

                                  Even if you're right in your wholly unsubstantiated claim, the way to get more people on your side is by persuading them, not by capitulating to their ill-informed beliefs. Giving in to their bullshit is how you join their side.

                                  I would love to know what your media diet is.

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                                    Except sometimes "pedophile" actually means "trans person just living." The right claims all trans people are groomers.

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                                    Obviously, if they're targeting trans people specifically for being trans, i dont support that. But if they got lured by these guys, doesnt it mean they're pedo's?

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                                      Obviously, if they're targeting trans people specifically for being trans, i dont support that. But if they got lured by these guys, doesnt it mean they're pedo's?

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                                      If someone shows up with the intent to fuck a minor, absolutely, but I guarantee those aren't the only targets vigilantism catches.

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                                        If someone shows up with the intent to fuck a minor, absolutely, but I guarantee those aren't the only targets vigilantism catches.

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                                        Well, sounds like a completely different instance then. Not sure why you would bring it up.

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                                          Vigilantism is on the rise regardless, Either because the police are incompetent / carefree about the complaints. or because individuals are overzealous, dont undrestand or agree with the law, and decide to cosplay as the punisher.

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                                          Or because the facade of "justice" is crumbling to reveal the truth of heirarchy behind it.

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