Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service
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No there yet but not getting the love it deserved either.
Maybe they oughta try asking for money like Wikipedia and KDE, maybe then they could become independent from Google and focus on actually developing a quality browser instead of making every app be about profit.You're making no sense.
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What do you make of the use of email in the business world? You're right that quite a bit of that has turned into instant messaging as well, ie I text my boss instead of sending them mail but it definitely feels like that's going away a lot slower if not expanding
Email is a must for between businesses. Having said that, lots of internal communication is findingther channels, like Teams, Slack, and so on.
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It's a saturated market and email is starting to disappear (it'll take years, but the signs are there).
They'd be better using it on the browser and ditching other products.Any business2business or consumer2business communication will likely still happen over email for a very long time
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Labels are displayed as folders on IMAP, which means that a single message could appear in multiple folders. Are there any other problems you're talking about?
One of the problems that annoyed me in the past is the complexity and ambiguity of deleting an email over IMAP. Depending on whether it's the last label of the deleted email, deleting an email from a label's directory either removes a label from this email, or actually deletes the email.
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It's insecure by default and Kids These Days
prefer messaging apps, which have boomed in the last decade.
Time will tell.So... Exactly how it was 20 years ago. Kids Those Days used AIM and Yahoo Messenger instead of slack and discord.
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It's a saturated market and email is starting to disappear (it'll take years, but the signs are there).
They'd be better using it on the browser and ditching other products.No its never going to disappear. If you are referring to people using slack and chat apps, those are locked in walled gardens where your messages cant ever leave.
Email can be moved anywhere easily.
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I have a 20ish year old history in my Gmail account organized in labels and all that. I wonder if it will be viable to migrate?
Please archive shit. It's OK to save old data, but not on the service. There are ways. Even banks, the most obsessive and legally strapped data hoarders keep their 5+ year old data in deep cold storage, away from the active services. 99.9^% of information that old won't be looked at by anyone.
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No its never going to disappear. If you are referring to people using slack and chat apps, those are locked in walled gardens where your messages cant ever leave.
Email can be moved anywhere easily.
On top of that, people still use email to sign up for these gardens. Technically, you could use your phone number too. I wonder how far could you take this idea of living completely without email.
Job applications, and several other sign ins still depend on email, so that’s going to be a bit of a hitch.
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I meant hosting wise, at home or using a VPS? How did you get a fixed IP/ what are you using for a proxy?
Whatever their doing, it’s not worth it.
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I meant hosting wise, at home or using a VPS? How did you get a fixed IP/ what are you using for a proxy?
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That feature is currently being worked on and will be added soon
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Doesn't like 90% of Mozilla's funding come from Google? At least expanding their paid services could be seen as trying to turn that around.
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Doesn't like 90% of Mozilla's funding come from Google? At least expanding their paid services could be seen as trying to turn that around.
From my understanding thunbird is somewhat separated from this. From the article linked by OP it says:
What’s crystal clear is that Thunderbird’s ever-increasing donation revenue (currently its sole source of income) is allowing for some explosive growth that’s long overdue. To add some context to this, Thunderbird received $2.8 million in donation revenue during 2021. Two years later, in 2023, it received $8.6 million in donations. I’m told that total financial contributions for 2024 were even higher, though the final amount hasn’t been officially released.
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I hope to god one day the developers at Mozilla finally get tired of this shit and fork everything under a new org.
Fuck off with more services and give me my integrated FTP client back. No one who uses Firefox wants more cloud shit.
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I keep hearing a lot of negative comments about Mozilla lately. I’m wondering if this move is more in line with then just turning into another google rather than disrupting the marketplace.
yeah, might seem good to have yet another choice, but it's an illusion
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Doesn't like 90% of Mozilla's funding come from Google? At least expanding their paid services could be seen as trying to turn that around.
The anti-monopoly lawsuit against Google fixed that
Now Mozilla has to find a way to offset that loss
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No matter how much I hate Mozilla's new path, companies like this challenging big tech are bold and have a lot of courage. If I set aside my personal op opinions about Mozilla, I actually admire them for this. They can actually dent big tech with funding from big tech itself.
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The anti-monopoly lawsuit against Google fixed that
Now Mozilla has to find a way to offset that loss
Nice! Good for them.
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Here's what I want.... I leave a computer on at home and it checks my email. I get emails from it at my phone. No setup. Make it work like Sinkthing used to work. I don't want cloud anything. Fucking backup nightmare where my shit ends up kidnapped by a company for monthly ransom.
