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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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  • S [email protected]

    Bro can't you even follow the premise of the thread for like 2 comments

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    #175

    Yeah I disagree with the premise. I was nice to people who wanted me dead for years. I'm fucking done.

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    • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

      The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

      On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

      • Be kind

      • Ask people what they think, and why

      • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

      • Engage sincerely

      • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

      • Make this small space worth being in

      A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

      Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

      The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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      Hating successful people is the best way to insure your own failure.
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      • S [email protected]

        Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

        Tolerance got us here.

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        #177

        Except the non-US republicans, they're cool πŸ˜„

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        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

          i hope the quality stays up and i guess that we're non-commercial might help with this; as we're not pushing people to use this platform; the people here are people who actually want to use this platform and i guess that in itself could do a good thing.

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          I wish too. Unfortunately, the redditors are coming here, and i've noticed a pretty big spike in racism/transphobia πŸ˜„ I've been trying to keep them on a leash, reporting them to other admins directly and banning them from dbzer0, but the attitude itself being there disappoints me heavily πŸ˜•

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            Lol the irony

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            #179

            Zero irony. Nothing funny here. Nazis fuck off. Republicans fuck off. Trumpers fuck off.

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            • S [email protected]

              Zero irony. Nothing funny here. Nazis fuck off. Republicans fuck off. Trumpers fuck off.

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              #180

              And zero self awareness lmao

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              • R [email protected]

                Lol the irony

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                The nazis during WW2 were defeated with love and kindness πŸ€—

                (lol no, we shot them to death)

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                  And zero self awareness lmao

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                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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                    The nazis during WW2 were defeated with love and kindness πŸ€—

                    (lol no, we shot them to death)

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                    #183

                    Liar. They were destroyed with facts and logic, duh

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                    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                      I wish too. Unfortunately, the redditors are coming here, and i've noticed a pretty big spike in racism/transphobia πŸ˜„ I've been trying to keep them on a leash, reporting them to other admins directly and banning them from dbzer0, but the attitude itself being there disappoints me heavily πŸ˜•

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                      #184

                      This unfortunately happens each time Reddit steps on a rake. They tend to come in waves.

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                      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                        The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                        On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                        • Be kind

                        • Ask people what they think, and why

                        • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                        • Engage sincerely

                        • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                        • Make this small space worth being in

                        A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                        Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                        The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                        #185

                        Love this

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                        • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                          This unfortunately happens each time Reddit steps on a rake. They tend to come in waves.

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                          Oddly enough i haven't seen any from .ml, so good job keeping the fucks off lemmy. Can't saw the same for LW and SJW sadly, though i always ping the admins each time i see em.

                          If only we can keep them contained to hilariouschaos or their own instance, at least. If you're going to be racist, at least do it there and spare us from the BS.

                          redditors were the reason i left reddit, too many racism against arabs so i decided lemmy would be a better place. It still has a couple of the traits left over, but it's miles better than that shithole. So i'm really disappointed seeing them here πŸ˜• though it's funny seeing them get dunked on lol

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Sorry but right wingers aren't welcome here.

                            If (Republicans/Tankies/Fascists) want any voice here they can go get fucked.

                            If they acted in good faith and were capable of processing reality they wouldn't identify as such.

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                            That is a very specific interpretation of what I meant by this post.

                            To be perfectly honest, I really wasn't making the point you should approve of nazis. Just that maybe it's worth putting effort into being kind to one another...

                            For example, I constantly see leftists online biting eachother's heads off (including on lemmy) for having slightly different left-wing ideology. Its not like "approach people you disagree with with curiosity" means specifically actual neonazis, and approaching someone with curiosity doesn't mean telling people "your idea is correct and you're right for thinking it"

                            It means trying to understand it. You can dislike someone and still gain from better understanding their worldview. Even if you think it's harmful. Even if you think it's illogical. Even if you think they're wrong. Curiousity isn't tacit approval.

                            If you want to think about it cynically you can consider it creating allies and knowing your enemy.

                            I understand we disagree on certain things, that's okay, these are just my thoughts on the subject, and it's a profoundly important one, so I can appreciate why people would have different strongly held beliefs on it. Hope you have a good one πŸ™‚

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                              My biggest worry on Lemmy is actually bots and Russian psy ops though. If centralized reddit couldn’t stop them before misinformation spread, how is Lemmy supposed to?

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                              I could be wrong but to me it feels odd to think lemmy is big enough to be worth organizing psyops for.

                              Not to say it couldn't be an issue in the future, but it feels much more likely that people expressing pro Russia sentiment are just people who bought into that particular brand of propaganda.

                              Which like, to some extent all of our individual world views are shaped by the environment of propaganda we're exposed to. We're all products of our social conditioning, and ultimately that's exactly what propaganda is. Media designed to socially condition people to a certain set of beliefs. All we as individuals can do is be aware of it and be willing to look at our own beliefs critically.

                              But at the end of the day I think the folks praising Russia on lemmy are just people. People I personally think are misguided, but I don't think theyre generally acting in bad faith any more than the general population here.

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                              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                That is a very specific interpretation of what I meant by this post.

                                To be perfectly honest, I really wasn't making the point you should approve of nazis. Just that maybe it's worth putting effort into being kind to one another...

                                For example, I constantly see leftists online biting eachother's heads off (including on lemmy) for having slightly different left-wing ideology. Its not like "approach people you disagree with with curiosity" means specifically actual neonazis, and approaching someone with curiosity doesn't mean telling people "your idea is correct and you're right for thinking it"

                                It means trying to understand it. You can dislike someone and still gain from better understanding their worldview. Even if you think it's harmful. Even if you think it's illogical. Even if you think they're wrong. Curiousity isn't tacit approval.

                                If you want to think about it cynically you can consider it creating allies and knowing your enemy.

                                I understand we disagree on certain things, that's okay, these are just my thoughts on the subject, and it's a profoundly important one, so I can appreciate why people would have different strongly held beliefs on it. Hope you have a good one πŸ™‚

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                                Yeah that's a much too enlightened take for these parts it'll never fly.

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                                • antibullyranger@ani.socialA [email protected]

                                  It's extremely hard to be charitable online, when you have instances like these:

                                  • https://map-wiki.com/index.php/List_of_active_instances_of_map_fediverse
                                  • https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Pediverse
                                  • https://fediverse.wiki/wiki/Poast
                                  • https://truthsocial.com/

                                  I'm sorry that I cannot β€œbe kind” to the intolerant.

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                                  Okay for anyone who is fried at the moment like I am, map-wiki IS NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Yeah that's a much too enlightened take for these parts it'll never fly.

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                                    Anger and fear are blinding if you let them be, especially if they're intensely justified.

                                    Unfortunately we live in times where they're very justified. I don't begrudge people for reacting in anger or fear, I'm doing my best not to do exactly the same 😞

                                    Take care my friend.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

                                      Tolerance got us here.

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                                      Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

                                      Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

                                      It's not black and white.

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                                        Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

                                        Tolerance got us here.

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                                        Nazis can always join their own defederated server and have their little circle jerk, nothing is stopping them from going and joining exploding heads; they don't have a right to be part of federated fediverse and have their bullshit heard.

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                                          Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

                                          Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

                                          It's not black and white.

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                                          Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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