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The best thing you can do for the fediverse is just be kind

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    Yeah that's a much too enlightened take for these parts it'll never fly.

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    Anger and fear are blinding if you let them be, especially if they're intensely justified.

    Unfortunately we live in times where they're very justified. I don't begrudge people for reacting in anger or fear, I'm doing my best not to do exactly the same 😞

    Take care my friend.

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      Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

      Tolerance got us here.

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      Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

      Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

      It's not black and white.

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        Unless you're a republican or other type of nazi. Then you can absolutely go all the way to hell.

        Tolerance got us here.

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        Nazis can always join their own defederated server and have their little circle jerk, nothing is stopping them from going and joining exploding heads; they don't have a right to be part of federated fediverse and have their bullshit heard.

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          Generalizing is logical fallacy. Not all Republicans are Nazis.

          Some are rotten. Some are good people that just got duped.

          It's not black and white.

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          Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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            And zero self awareness lmao

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            Blocked.

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              Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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              Nope. There's really not. A lot of them are waking up. You're being divisive. And that's not what the country needs.

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                Sorry but right wingers aren't welcome here.

                If (Republicans/Tankies/Fascists) want any voice here they can go get fucked.

                If they acted in good faith and were capable of processing reality they wouldn't identify as such.

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                What is a tankie?

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                  Nope. There's really not. A lot of them are waking up. You're being divisive. And that's not what the country needs.

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                  I am being clear. This debate is over.

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                  • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                    They do not support the alt-right. What are you even talking about? “MAGA communists” almost never show up on Lemmy, and when they do they are quickly shown the door.

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                    I have read a lot of marxist and anarchist theory. All marxist theories did is to confirm that the anarchists are right.

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                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                      serious question but how do/could you formalize your rejection of right-wingers? what is it exactly that you take issue with?

                      i'm asking because i talk to a lot of people (also some who identify as "right-wingers") and i'd like to know what exactly are the issues that bother people, so i can forward it to them. it would help me bring up better arguments if i know what other people are thinking.

                      so, i've collected the following list of things to take issue with so far:

                      • right-wingers often think that people who don't work, don't deserve to eat, which clearly puts enterpreneurial spirit above human life, which is clearly illegal
                      • right-wingers often take brunt and direct actions, which can be uncomfortable to more sensitive people.
                      • right-wingers typically neglect far-sightedness, seeking only short-term profits (looking at you, quarterly profit).

                      tell me if i forgot something.

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                      The main thing is the bigotry and making marginalized people feel unwelcome and unsafe. Having trans people and Nazis existing in the same space isn't really tenable, in practice, most marginalized people would rather be in a space where they're existence and basic rights aren't up for debate and where they won't receive slurs and threats of violence. So the question is, who would you rather have in your community, oppressor or oppressed?

                      Of course, this person applies this standard blindly by including "tankies" as "right-wingers." She's just abusing a valid argument by using it to dismiss any perspective she doesn't like, left or right, bigoted or accepting, bad faith or good faith, as "right-wing."

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                      • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comF [email protected]

                        Oddly enough i haven't seen any from .ml, so good job keeping the fucks off lemmy. Can't saw the same for LW and SJW sadly, though i always ping the admins each time i see em.

                        If only we can keep them contained to hilariouschaos or their own instance, at least. If you're going to be racist, at least do it there and spare us from the BS.

                        redditors were the reason i left reddit, too many racism against arabs so i decided lemmy would be a better place. It still has a couple of the traits left over, but it's miles better than that shithole. So i'm really disappointed seeing them here 😕 though it's funny seeing them get dunked on lol

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                        Socialist software developers created their own place, Lemmy, because corporate social media told them they did not fit in there.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          I am being clear. This debate is over.

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                          I'm being clear as well. If you want to be hostile to the whole group that's your personal choice. I'm going to express the reality of the situation though. Bye.

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                            Nope. There's really not. A lot of them are waking up. You're being divisive. And that's not what the country needs.

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                            They had 4 years of Trump to see the truth for themselves. And then they got to see Trump break another election cycle's worth of promises on top of that!

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                              Okay for anyone who is fried at the moment like I am, map-wiki IS NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY.

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                              Damn I was mildly interested for a minute, I do love a little cartography

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Yes, but not at the cost of letting fascists win. Harm reduction is real.

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                                Sure, harm reduction is good. That's what's been happening for the past century.

                                But you give the liberals an inch and they'll take a mile. They're only "liberals" as long as they're making money of others, as soon as something goes wrong they're first in line asking for government handouts. That's why the liberals will always prefer fascist over left wing idealists, because they're opportunists more than anything else. They'll backstab you and vote in fascists if they think they can make more money with them. That's exactly what's happening in the US.

                                We need new politics where hating on the LGBTQ+, immigrants, women, and putting money over the lives of few isn't considered a political leaning.

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                                  Okay for anyone who is fried at the moment like I am, map-wiki IS NOT ABOUT GEOGRAPHY.

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                                  I also learned that one today.....

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                                    Sure, harm reduction is good. That's what's been happening for the past century.

                                    But you give the liberals an inch and they'll take a mile. They're only "liberals" as long as they're making money of others, as soon as something goes wrong they're first in line asking for government handouts. That's why the liberals will always prefer fascist over left wing idealists, because they're opportunists more than anything else. They'll backstab you and vote in fascists if they think they can make more money with them. That's exactly what's happening in the US.

                                    We need new politics where hating on the LGBTQ+, immigrants, women, and putting money over the lives of few isn't considered a political leaning.

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                                    Yep. Which means we need to run for government positions in a way we can win

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                                      They had 4 years of Trump to see the truth for themselves. And then they got to see Trump break another election cycle's worth of promises on top of that!

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                                      Trump's first term was nothing like this. It wasn't full on facism like the current term. The economy wasn't being completely obliterated and people weren't being disappeared.

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                                        Anger and fear are blinding if you let them be, especially if they're intensely justified.

                                        Unfortunately we live in times where they're very justified. I don't begrudge people for reacting in anger or fear, I'm doing my best not to do exactly the same 😞

                                        Take care my friend.

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                                        As so often, the answer is found in scripture:

                                        One day Mal-2 asked the messenger spirit Saint Gulik to approach the Goddess and request Her presence for some desperate advice. Shortly afterwards the radio came on by itself, and an ethereal female Voice said YES?

                                        "O! Eris! Blessed Mother of Man! Queen of Chaos! Daughter of Discord! Concubine of Confusion! O! Exquisite Lady, I beseech You to lift a heavy burden from my heart!"

                                        WHAT BOTHERS YOU, MAL? YOU DON'T SOUND WELL.

                                        "I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe."

                                        WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?

                                        "But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it."

                                        OH. WELL, THEN STOP.

                                        At which moment She turned herself into an aspirin commercial and left The Polyfather stranded alone with his species.

                                        Answer. I said answer. Not solution. Too much aspirin and your blood thins out and you need to move to Transylvania.

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                                          And zero self awareness lmao

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                                          Either you’re being intentionally obtuse or you’re being paid by Russia either way….

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