VPN Registrations Increase by 1,000%, less than Hour After PornHub Blocked France From Accessing its Website.
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Protest on them trying to enact age consent laws.
By showing the message rather than Pornhub's vast library of adult content, Aylo "is communicating directly with the French people to tell them how dangerous, how potentially privacy-infringing, and how ineffective the French law is", Solomon Friedman of Aylo's owner, Ethical Capital Partners, told reporters in a video call on Tuesday.
Paris has this year gradually introduced requirements for all adult websites to have users confirm their age with details like a credit card or ID document.
In a bid to preserve privacy, operators must offer a third-party "double-blind" option that would keep the platforms themselves from seeing users' identifying information.Edit - the sauce - Pornhub, YouPorn owner suspends access to French users over age verification law
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Age verification in a porn database is odd to me, from a privacy point of view AND a massive undertaking for the porn company. And then there's the puritan culture of wanting to block teenagers from watching porn? Seems a very anti-French thing to me, but I'm also pretty ignorant of actual French culture. I assumed French culture would be like, once you have the urges, you'll go seeking, and if you need to look at the internet in the safety of your own bedroom, is better than unexpected pregnancies to satisfy urges.
What's the deal with all of this, anyway? What are the arguments here?
I'm not aware of the exact motivations of all the actors. What follows are my guesses.
My guess would be that
- Some député want to protect children from the most dangerous types of porn (which I can hear on some level, porn can be addictive for some people and can lead to negative behaviour, children are always more sensitive).
- Some probably think that all porn is bad and want to prevent anyone from consuming it, this would only be a first step for those.
- Some definitely want to be able to spy on everyone and use this as an excuse to further reduce privacy and freedom
You might not be aware depending where you are from, but France is on a slippery slope towards Fascism, the far right is gaining more power every day, a lot of people think it is very plausible that a far right president is elected on the next election (2027), along with a parliament's majority.
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If you at all think that people can be addicted to social media, you could draw a correlation from this to porn addiction.
I know a lot of you either don’t think porn can be addictive and/or don’t think it can have negative effects on society.
Ask yourselves why the logic works for social media but not porn.
EDIT: I’m gonna have to do an experiment and see if I get more downvotes for saying negative things about porn or positive things about Israel. Unfortunately I think it’d be pretty close.
Ehh... Application of a addiction model is somewhat controversial for pornography (the ground seems divided on whether it's a compulsion or an addiction). Social media, however, is no less controversial (it's just the media likes to hype this more).
I will say - the point of a porn site is to sell user data and deliver ads, whereas the point of social media is to keep the user scrolling by any means possible. By its design, the latter cultivates addiction as a clear goal (the goal to scroll is artificially imposed), whereas the case for the former is less clear (the goal to masturbate isn't something porn created). In essence, one creates a drive and then sates it, whereas another sates an existing drive.
Honestly, I think, at the moment, we're on the "violent video games cause violence" stage of the research. In other words, not enough data to decide so the media has decided for us.
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Intrigued by the quarter a day oscillation in that graph...
I think the oscillation described people's activity time. Over the course of a day, people who would register for a VPN are much more likely to do so during the evening, because during the day they are busy with work. So you observer on a daily basis a peak like this.
Such charts are very common with services used daily. For example, social media usage in a given region often has a peak during the morning, a big peak during lunch time, and in general goes up after work time.
Of course not everyone works at the same time, but a majority of people have more or less the same work times, so we observe the peaks.
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Why use Tor? It's been compromised for years now. Just use I2P. You can torrent with that too.
Can you elaborate on how tor is screwed?
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Why do people even go to pornhub... there are so many other options
I don’t really give it much thought, I load pornhub, click a recommended video, do my business and then close the private tab (yes I know this doesn’t hide your activity but it does stop pornhub showing as a search suggestion.). I’m not a connoisseur it’s a means to an end.
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Why do people even go to pornhub... there are so many other options
Because it's simple and it works. When most people want to watch porn they don't spend an hour researching their best option, they just go somewhere they know and watch something there.
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To clarify, the french didn't ban pornhub, it's the company behind pornhub who decided to deny it's access in France to protest a law proposal that is currently getting examined in parliament
Ps : The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Isn't that already the case on a lot of the internet?
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Reminds me of the running joke I had with a French bloke in a place were I worked in about how Jacquie-Et-Michelle (NSFW) was an unmissable part of French Culture, which none of our other colleagues seem to - or at least admitted to - get.
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Dont stand between the French and porn apparently.
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I feel they could easily ban VPN companies (maybe?), which is what 99.9% of people that want to browse from a different location use.
This won’t affect companies at all as they would be using their own VPN.
The only way the sovereign nation of France can ban VPN companies not based in France is to block the IP address of every single entry point of every single VPN company and keep doing so as they add new entry points (I bet the response on the VPN company side would be to start having some kind of dynamic VPN server thing).
And then, as somebody else already pointed out, any technically inclined person can just rent a VPS anywhere in the World and fire up their own VPN server on it.
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I remember when the French used to respond to this shit with fire instead
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Good ol' Anja und Katja definitely helped me out in my teenage years.
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It doesn’t do the one thing it’s meant to do.
allow region blocked people to circumvent restrictions? AFAIK it still does that.
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Me. Porn is fine. Teach your children how to handle it. Teach them that it's not realistic and some of it is straight-up dangerous. Put a filter on your internet if you're too scared to talk to your kids about uncomfortable topics.
Man it's porn, not guns. Children should not be near it!
Oh wait this is France
Anyway, I agree with you. We're talking about regular ol garden variety porn. Everyone will probably see it at some point. Parents can limit what their kids see until the kids become smart enough to bypass filters. At which point they can probably handle seeing pennis n vagene.
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pornhub is so sanitized now, im guessing its mostly because of the OF videos. most of them are on sites that arnt affiliated with PH.
After the big purge of some years ago, PornHub has became useless. The good real videos are elsewhere.
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go on...
xHamster is my go to!
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The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Isn't that already the case on a lot of the internet?
I think this law requires you to upload a photo of your ID and says that it's the website's fault if underage people use it and they face a hefty fine. It's a lot more than the standard "click to pinky promise that you're definitely 18" because PornHub already has that.
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Home video stuff is arguably the best!
Often filmed with nothing but desire to share the joy. Vivid, real, as opposed to the carefully curated studio plastic, or OF crap where people have it for the money, and with all the ethical and other concerns about it.
But I know there are always two sides to look at the issue. Studio production is obviously more perfected, and that's what many like
To each their own!
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The law in question would require all porn sites to verify the age of its users
Wait aren't they proposing the same thing in the US as well? It's a fairly standard thing of right-wing governments to just demand the impossible with no understanding about it could possibly be achieved.
They understand just how hard it would be to comply. And that's the point. Make it hard enough to meet the requirements to not make worth a business' while to comply. And the politicians can say "We didn't ban PornHub. They blocked you from access."
It's a common tool both the left and right use to control behaviors. Governments around the world do this all the time.
