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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    I want a bed that can cool itself. That sounds awesome. But make it work "stupidly" instead of being "smart."

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    You want a bedjet. I have one, Iove it.

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      Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

      After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

      Grossly overpriced? Check

      $350 upsell for physical controls? Check

      Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

      Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

      Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

      This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

      you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

      Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

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      No warranty without a subscription should be illegal

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      • R [email protected]

        So I wrote a lot of word salad there and maybe this point got lost:

        This device is not a mattress

        It is a mattress topper

        So you buy your bougie $2500 mattress (because of course someone buying this is not cheaping out on a mattress) and fancy bed frame. Then you spend another $3000 on this. Then *another * 200ish dollars a year, in perpetuity, to make it work (not including electrical costs and water)

        But at that point why not pay >€200 for a window unit air conditioner and the >€1 in electricity for the day to run it overnight? If you don’t have a window that can accommodate you can get ones that stand in the room. A dehumidifier. A fan. None of these require apps or subscriptions (yet), cost substantially less, and again the research about sleep temperature is about the environment, not the bed itself

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        They sell a mattress as well. It’s a bit more integrated.

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          You want a water bed. But be careful, they get COLD.

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          There was a girl at university that had a water bed and when I was in it I could not get out of it, you just sort of flop around in the middle. Also you have to faff around with special insurance, and get special sheets.

          Not worth it.

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            Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

            After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

            Grossly overpriced? Check

            $350 upsell for physical controls? Check

            Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

            Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

            Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

            This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

            you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

            Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

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            I have one of these and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. You don’t have to believe me. In any case, it just runs off of a Linux computer. You can install OSS firmware on it.

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              Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

              After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

              Grossly overpriced? Check

              $350 upsell for physical controls? Check

              Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

              Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

              Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

              This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

              you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

              Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

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              Isn't he some semi-famous tech YouTuber? I would be surprised if he actually had bought this product.

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                The cold, temperpedic truth.

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                his joke but more

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  I want a bed that can cool itself. That sounds awesome. But make it work "stupidly" instead of being "smart."

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                  Buy some decent, quiet, pc fans and sew a wrap-around sheet, with holes at the foot end just for the small fans to nestle into. The idea is you lay on the bottom part, the top part is over you with whatever other light blankets, and the fans are by your feet, ideally one for each side with an on/off switch. They blow cool air into the sheets and help evaporate moisture. It’s the same idea as a lot of very expensive machines.

                  Build a small frame to securely hold the fans, ensure no obstructions, and hold the end of the airflow sheet, put the power supply somewhere far away, and you’ve basically built a $400+ cooling bed.

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                    • R [email protected]

                      Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

                      After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

                      Grossly overpriced? Check

                      $350 upsell for physical controls? Check

                      Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

                      Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

                      Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

                      This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

                      you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

                      Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

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                      tbh until I read ur comment I just assumed this was a shitpost tweet making fun of the state of consumer electronics, not a real product

                      I bought a gleeb for my glibben needs but it has no interoperability with floob, so I bought an adaptor from Amazon with a weird brand name made of plastic... etc etc

                      Just buy a blanket...?

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                        AI controlled bed

                        Looks inside: A bunch of ifs

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                        if (bed->isTooCold()) {
                            return;
                        }
                        
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                          Unrealistic. Pod4, the latest model, will only work via phone app. That's the way it goes.

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                            Temps here are around 30°c. I'd love to have a cold bed lol.

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                              Look at this dumb asshole that got the $2500-2600 (assuming queen mattress) plus $17/mo or 199/yr subscription mattress cover (eg not the actual fucking mattress or bed frame). What a broke piece of shit. Should’ve gotten the $2850-2950 pod 6

                              After briefly googling what this actually is and the costs involved I have 0 sympathy for anyone involved. This is 100% tech bro bullshit. A temperature controlled bed sounds neat, I guess, and I am always a sucker for analytics, but this is possibly the most consumer hostile bullshit I have ever seen. It is all of the worst practices of modern tech wrapped into a device:

                              Grossly overpriced? Check

                              $350 upsell for physical controls? Check

                              Tons of vague language about health benefits that extrapolate valid claims onto their product, suggesting their product has benefits beyond something far cheaper (eg temperature does impact sleep but a $10 fan or $150 window unit would likely be fine because research is generally about environment and not about the surface of the bed)? Zero research about the device itself and zero funding for them to get this product investigated? Check

                              Subscription required? Not technically, core functionality still works, but you lose all the analytics, all the “smart adjustments” of temperature (it basically will just hold a constant temperature throughout the night whereas the subscription will adjust it gradually based on movement) and the biggest point is that your warranty is voided and you lose all support if you don’t maintain a subscription

                              Also while I don’t know this for sure I am betting there is 0 chance that you can fix this thing if it breaks.

                              This thing is so dumb and if you buy it I will judge you. You could buy a 2001 Honda accord LX with 141,000 miles. for that price. That’s a reliable car. I had one and drove it to 200k, sold it and I’m sure it ran for a while longer. Maintain it well and you’ll get 250-300k out of that bad boy. Meanwhile your dumb water bed cover will break and leak all over which is apparently so bad people all worry about all the posts theyve seen about leaking and the social media team has to come share blog post about how they make them less shitty now. sorry if you got the first batch, i guess. But it’s okay because as dumb redditors point out you can give them another $500 to extend the warranty to 5 years. Just remember to keep that subscription active or that warranty is void you stupid piece of shit.

                              you still need a fucking mattress! You know someone buying this isn’t throwing it on a $400 ikea mattress. They’re going for the $3200 foam mattress. I am so mad about this

                              Edit: it also sells the biometric data its harvests about you to advertisers. Reddit posts show it uploads anywhere from 10-30gb of data per month, so it’s collecting quite a bit of data

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                              I remember Louis Rossman (yes you read that right) promoting something similar

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                                Isn't he some semi-famous tech YouTuber? I would be surprised if he actually had bought this product.

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                                he is very famous in the tech sphere at this point i think
                                He mostly makes videos going about tech articles and giving his mind about it but sometimes explaining some things about the choices he made on his setup/projects (i think the latter videos are better).
                                Famous enough even that some junior devs/viewers copy him. (i remember some rumors/sm-posts that senior devs dont like it BUT cant make anyone happy)
                                I personally dislike him* but there are a lot that like him.

                                ::: spoiler *reasons for why i disliking him (its a wall of text, sorry, its not even productive)
                                I know that the first video i saw was really bad and got me into avoiding his videos.
                                Dont even know if it was because he talked bs or if i just thought he was weird.
                                Did not treat him like a credible source until i watched a better video a few months after.
                                So i was biased from the start

                                A while ago he made a video about an article/reportage where the creators asked him nicely to delete/change/share-revenue because it was like 95% their content and the rest him saying something and he completely flipped how they dare after he gave them so much exposure.
                                He also backlashed against another creator who defended the company and spoke out against him.
                                To my knowledge Theo still things he was the one wronged.

                                Less important to my reasoning:
                                He is actively working on an AI app thing (combines different AIs into 1 app)
                                :::

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                                  I remember Louis Rossman (yes you read that right) promoting something similar

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                                  Did he really? That's kinda surprising. Do you have a link?

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                                    That's a stupid product. Also, can't stand this guy. He's extremely obnoxious, shills cloud services, and seems to give opinions about things way out of his expertise.

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                                      Did he really? That's kinda surprising. Do you have a link?

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                                      Correction: he doesn't promote it and calls it his potentially stupidest purchase

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulgWSfedC7E

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                                        Did he really? That's kinda surprising. Do you have a link?

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                                        looked up the video:

                                        • it was not a smart mattress
                                        • was a very very expensive mattress
                                        • the bed base is smart but he is not connecting it to anything

                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulgWSfedC7E

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                                          To re-enable the Eight Sleep app, please drink verification can

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