Who remembers this?
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The front of it presumably is. But the back, that we're looking at, seems to be in shade.
Light bounces around. That's the whole point of ray tracing. Even if the dress were not in direct light, the light bouncing around the environment would prevent the kind of shade necessary for that.
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
You want wild? I see it white and gold in the PC, and blue and black(ish) on the phone.
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If they were asking about actual color of the dress that you cannot see, what the fuck is the point? That's like saying, we put orange cat in fully closed box. What color is the cat? And you then claim it's not orange, it's black because there is no light inside the fully closed box so the cat is actually black. That's the level of stupid argument with this stupid ass dress.
I can also shoot a white dress to look entirely blue because I'm gonna use cool white light at 9000 fucking Kelvins and fuck up the cameras white balance to make shit look anything but its actual color. I can also take a normal photo and then just drag some sliders in photo editor and fuck up colors and then ask some bullshit question about colors and then go like "well, achtually it's not that color".
It's also funny when people argue it's not actually white because color picker says it's light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature. Secondly, open color wheel and see where it's positioned. It's in the white segment mildly nudging towards blue. The part where I'm not gonna argue is perception of gradients. This isn't "this gold color is actually black bullshit", but actual science where people perceive correct colors differently. For someone a certain gradient of red is perceived as lighter or darker compared to someone else. But certainly isn't perceived as green. Or black. Or whatever other basic color.
It's also funny when people argue it's not actually white because color picker says it's light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature.
It's because it seems like about half of people's eyes and brains correct it one way and the other half the other way, leading to extremely heated discussions about "how can you not see it my way." This isn't like other optical illusions like that silhouette of a spinning ballerina where you can easily flip it around in your mind. I've only ever seen this as white and gold once and it took someone putting it upside down and very slowly zooming out from a very specific area of the dress.
So that's why people were so torn about it.
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I found this image to be a really good way to distill the issue down into the two different modes or perception:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress#/media/File:Wikipe-tan_wearing_The_Dress_reduced.svg
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I initially saw black and blue, but after scrolling to the top of this thread yesterday I could only see white and gold and again today, even zooming in.
Immediately switched to black and blue after reading that.
The mind is a fascinating thing.
Edit: Holy crap I'm back to white and gold.
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
Back when this went viral, I only saw white and gold. Then one moment it just sorta morphed into blue and black. Now I can't turn it back to white and gold for the love of me.
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The blue of the dress is pretty obvious
It really isn't to me. Even knowing the true colour I still cannot see the blue in this picture, it's perfectly white for me. Guess my brain is wired wrong.
️Edit: happy cake day!
I legit saw this picture as white and gold until I went to an article that someone linked and they had a transitioning gif with the saturation / hue shifting it.
It’s now black and blue for me and I’m gonna go cry in the shower as my understanding of everything has just changed in real time.
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everyone's wrong, gold and baby blue
This... Thank god i m not crazy
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That's the thing, that background can also look like a harsh sunlight, which would typically give you a blue tint. Your brain has to guess which is right.
But it's not tinted blue. It's extremely vivid.
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This concludes your long term memory exam. Please see the lady at the front desk to schedule your short term exam.
Where was the lady supposed to be again?
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
It had a lot to do with low quality displays at the time and not necessarily people seeing it incorrectly.
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I've been trying for the past minute and cannot see anything other than white and gold
️I’m right there with you. I don’t doubt they are correct, but from the start, my brain has solidly decided to perceive it as white and gold. Cannot see blue anywhere no matter how much I try and force my brain to look for it.
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Does not help me to see it the other way.
Thanks for confirming. My eyes adjusted when I did so and then as I scrolled back up even the on where they used the color pallet had changed to my vision. Next day saw it as white, and did the same thing again. The brain is weird.
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It's white/gold if you recognize that it's lit from behind. So the dress appearing darker is due to there being much less light on it than the stuff behind it.
I can't see it as blue/black because I can't make my brain ignore the fact that it's backlit. But if your brain never recognizes that, then I suppose it would look blue.
The actual dress is blue and black and even when heavily backlit it just appears to be a lighter shade of blue, but not even close to white.
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You want wild? I see it white and gold in the PC, and blue and black(ish) on the phone.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It‘s the opposite with me, on my PC I saw it as black/blue, right now on Lemmy on my phone it can‘t be anything but gold/white. It must be the displays causing this ambiguity, no way human perception varies this much between a large set of people.
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I remember.
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thanks for making me feel old ...
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everyone's wrong, gold and baby blue
this! me too!
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
I see it as white and gold unless I squeeze my eyes almost shut and then it looks blue.
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
It's very noisy. In the sense of there being a lot of pixels that would make up either colors. Your eyes and brain try to make sense of the noise and "decide" what color it is. The strongest correlation that seems to exist is the time people get up in the morning. Early risers seem to see white more often, night owls have a tendency for blue. It might be caused by the amount of daylight vs. artificial light that people see throughout their waking hours.
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No, but it doesn't mean the other answer is invalid too. If there is no reference in the picture to tell what kind of light condition it was shot at, both answers could be possible.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]So if we're just going by what's possible then the wall could be yellow and have a blue light, or it could be white with one yellow and one blue light.
