Iran declares U.S. citizens, personnel 'legitimate targets' after strike on nuclear sites
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Fellow muricans; stay out of metropolitan areas on July 4th. My guess is that we're going to see the inevitable marriage of military and local law enforcement using the "iranian sleeper sell agents biden let loose in our country" angle instead. Faux news frontpage is laying the groundwork as of yesterday.
sleeper sell agents
Damn, they must be really good at selling if they can do it in their sleep!
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Stand back, everyone. This guy made phone calls. I’m sure MAGA knows better than to show their face in this guy’s neighborhood!
More than many people did, though. Including you.
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sleeper sell agents
Damn, they must be really good at selling if they can do it in their sleep!
Lol... work brain seeped through. Pump those numbers up!
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That would practically guarantee boots on the ground in Iran and a regime change in 3 months.
Iran's leaders are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.
edit hate to repeat a standard antisemitic trope, but Israel would have a big reason to fake that
Maybe, but how brutal was it when we went into Afghanistan? Who did we attack when we invaded Afghanistan? Who runs that country now? For all that effort we put into getting rid of Al-Qaeda, they seem to still be running things. If I were a religious zealot, where I think my terrorism gets me into heaven, sending a message to the west in such a terrorist attack might be worth it. After all, the religious leader there is like 80-something, so he might not mind sacrificing the few years he has left for a guaranteed entry into heaven.
The cynic in me is going to bet that the Trump administration already knows an attack is coming, and they will let it happen. It's an easy reason to implement martial law. Then, with the ongoing emergency he'll always somehow manage to have manifest when people try to get him to give up power, he'll let the Iranians attack. Then, another emergency is declared.
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]Iran targeting U.S. citizens, U.S. targeting U.S. citizens, U.S. citizens just can't get a break.
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Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Imagine a group of criminals holding a police station hostage. You are not the hostages, you are the ones who are supposed to take care of the hostage takers.
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My money is on Iran enacting a terrorist attack on July 4. It isn’t just Iran’s opportunity to enact mere vengeance, but it is a convenient opportunity to have that vengeance become deeply ingrained into the mind of America for a long time to come. Where we would once have celebrated our independence, that celebration would be contaminated by a horrific attack. It's not just about enacting petty revenge, but it'd be about sending a message for generations. Also, the date is conveniently close.
Edit: Spelling
Waaayyy more likely Trump nukes them on July 4th just to flex.
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Maybe, but how brutal was it when we went into Afghanistan? Who did we attack when we invaded Afghanistan? Who runs that country now? For all that effort we put into getting rid of Al-Qaeda, they seem to still be running things. If I were a religious zealot, where I think my terrorism gets me into heaven, sending a message to the west in such a terrorist attack might be worth it. After all, the religious leader there is like 80-something, so he might not mind sacrificing the few years he has left for a guaranteed entry into heaven.
The cynic in me is going to bet that the Trump administration already knows an attack is coming, and they will let it happen. It's an easy reason to implement martial law. Then, with the ongoing emergency he'll always somehow manage to have manifest when people try to get him to give up power, he'll let the Iranians attack. Then, another emergency is declared.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I suppose the hit on Bin Laden couldn't have been launched without significant presence in Afghanistan. Why you stayed there after that though was weird. That seems to have been Obama's mistake.
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That would practically guarantee boots on the ground in Iran and a regime change in 3 months.
Iran's leaders are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.
edit hate to repeat a standard antisemitic trope, but Israel would have a big reason to fake that
Typifying a nation state by to it's goals, rhetoric, and past actions is not antisemitic, but the government of Israel definitely wants you to conflate it as such.
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Yeah that was George W Bush.
But sure, same thing right?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It was under Bush to justify imprisoning civilians. Bush was all for direct war actions.
Obama massively increased bombings and drone bombings to pull out combat troops and would do stuff like double tap weddings. To lower the number of civilian deaths, Obama declared any male over the age of 14 to be, by definition, an enemy combatant.
The person you responded to was correct, though a bit imprecise with their words.
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Iran targeting U.S. citizens, U.S. targeting U.S. citizens, U.S. citizens just can't get a break.
Elect a fascist clown, get a fascist circus.
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Well, do yourself what you would expect other people in a rogue state to do. How many cries of "the Russians should overthrow the government!" were there?
Or to bring in a parable: What would you have expected from the average German citizen in 1939?
I would expect the avg German citizen in 1939 to be historically fucked with no options but bad ones!
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More Americans died of Covid than in any war the US was involved since it became a country, yes including the Civil War. The highest death estimate for the Civil War puts it around 750 000 deaths while around 1 200 000 died due to Covid. Most Americans don't really care about the deaths of their fellow countrymen since, you know, they elected him again.
Fun Fact (I know it's not that fun): The number of people that died of Covid approaches the total number of people that died in all conflicts the US was involved from 1775 to 2019: 1 300 000 war dead versus 1 200 000 Covid dead
People easily ignore death if it's not directly connected to them.
Covid killed a lot but we also have many many times more people. The civil war directly effected a higher percent of the population in terms of death the. Covid did.
Covid was also hidden by modern medicine and society then the civil war was in many ways.
Covid to a lot of people just ment things closed sooner and they had to wear a mask. But society was already very insular and detached from the community around them. So it was only a progression of the norm. Unless you payed attention to the news or were in the healthcare industry. All the death was happening behind closed doors hidden away from society at large.
The civil war was best as I know far more impactful to the people because of the closet connection to their communities around them.
It was far more visible in a visceral way.
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You cannot kill an idea
Oh you very much can, what you can't do is stop ideas from mutating.
Ideas VERY rarely if ever actually survive the original source of them. The moment an idea is passed onto the next generation it changes.
You can make an argument that it's the same idea, but it rarely RARELY is.
Much like a virus, an idea can have similarities to what came before, but each version is unique and has it's owns strength and weaknesses.
All you can really hope is that the next version isn't more deadly and immune to the cure.
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I suppose the hit on Bin Laden couldn't have been launched without significant presence in Afghanistan. Why you stayed there after that though was weird. That seems to have been Obama's mistake.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The Taliban offered to arrest bin laden for us and Iran offered to help but Bush said nah, halliburton stocks go brrrrrrr
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Yeah, citizens and nuclear weapons research are perfectly equivalent targets.
Hitting a nuclear site puts a shit load of civilians in mortal danger
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Dear Iran, leave us Americans out of this fight. Your fight is with trump alone, we are hostages of him. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
we are hostages of him.
lol, you elected him... TWICE
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Fellow muricans; stay out of metropolitan areas on July 4th. My guess is that we're going to see the inevitable marriage of military and local law enforcement using the "iranian sleeper sell agents biden let loose in our country" angle instead. Faux news frontpage is laying the groundwork as of yesterday.
Meh, not much to celebrate in this sick joke of a country right now anyway.
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It was under Bush to justify imprisoning civilians. Bush was all for direct war actions.
Obama massively increased bombings and drone bombings to pull out combat troops and would do stuff like double tap weddings. To lower the number of civilian deaths, Obama declared any male over the age of 14 to be, by definition, an enemy combatant.
The person you responded to was correct, though a bit imprecise with their words.
President Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’
There's no grey area here, this is just false.
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President Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’
There's no grey area here, this is just false.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He absolutely redefined to justify killing children. Bush didn't do that. It was used, under Bush, to justify torture and jailing of adults.
Obama re-invented it for his purposes. The purpose being to kill children without consequence.
In my mind, that definitional change is significant enough that he owns a lot of that blame.
Fucking goddammit, he redefined the word to justify killing children. Why do you defend that?
EDIT: Removed indirect articles for easier readability, content is the same.
