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Sony faces another class-action lawsuit over PlayStation Store prices and monopolistic practices

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  • L [email protected]

    I mean if you read through EULA’s respect but they take seconds to get past. As for updates, I’m guessing you turned off auto updates and/or power your console down completely whenever you’re not playing it. Otherwise it should just be updating in the background and you never have to wait. That’s been typical for over a decade.

    I’m not saying those aren’t viable decisions if you want to disable all that or read everything, but the stuff you were encountering was completely avoidable. I never triggered 2FA on either my Xbox (one -> XSS) or PS4 so I’m not sure what you did to trip that up.

    Every TV lets you disable smart link so you could’ve killed that if you wanted to as well. I hate it as well! I don’t want the power button between my console and TV to be linked

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    For the updates: I put it to sleep. However my power cuts out every now and then. When the power comes back, the ps4 turns itself back on on and makes obnoxious beeping noises, just to tell me the power was cut. The dumb thing is it will stay on that screen until manually dismissed and won’t auto-update until you dismiss that screen, with no timeout. The hassle-free appliance experience!

    For your claim that the eulas being easy to skip, keep in mind that sometimes there were back-to-back updates that each required me to agree to a eula. So I would babysit the thing, walk away when it was taking forever, and when I came back it wouldn’t even be ready for gaming. Even windows isn’t that obnoxious.

    Also my tv at the time had no way to disable CEC (my new one does, and also doesn’t crash lol).

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      For the updates: I put it to sleep. However my power cuts out every now and then. When the power comes back, the ps4 turns itself back on on and makes obnoxious beeping noises, just to tell me the power was cut. The dumb thing is it will stay on that screen until manually dismissed and won’t auto-update until you dismiss that screen, with no timeout. The hassle-free appliance experience!

      For your claim that the eulas being easy to skip, keep in mind that sometimes there were back-to-back updates that each required me to agree to a eula. So I would babysit the thing, walk away when it was taking forever, and when I came back it wouldn’t even be ready for gaming. Even windows isn’t that obnoxious.

      Also my tv at the time had no way to disable CEC (my new one does, and also doesn’t crash lol).

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      my power cuts every now and then

      I mean dude that’s just a larger problem. If you were PC gaming that would be an even bigger issue. What appliance carries a backup battery?

      Get a surge protector with battery - APC is a very affordable brand. I’ve had the same one for 5 years, cost me $150. I use it to keep my PC and RAID online.

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        my power cuts every now and then

        I mean dude that’s just a larger problem. If you were PC gaming that would be an even bigger issue. What appliance carries a backup battery?

        Get a surge protector with battery - APC is a very affordable brand. I’ve had the same one for 5 years, cost me $150. I use it to keep my PC and RAID online.

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        Yea I have one for my PC. Sony argues in court that a PlayStation is not a PC, but an appliance. I’m pointing out how untrue that is.

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          Yea I have one for my PC. Sony argues in court that a PlayStation is not a PC, but an appliance. I’m pointing out how untrue that is.

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          What PC or appliance stays on when your power cuts off?

          Honestly I don’t even know if that’s a question I need to ask. I can’t even follow what your argument is anymore

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            What PC or appliance stays on when your power cuts off?

            Honestly I don’t even know if that’s a question I need to ask. I can’t even follow what your argument is anymore

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            No machine stays on without power, I’m not quite sure how you interpreted my statement that way. I’m saying all my other appliances recover gracefully from power loss and do whatever auto-updates they need to do in the background so when I go to use them they just work.

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              No machine stays on without power, I’m not quite sure how you interpreted my statement that way. I’m saying all my other appliances recover gracefully from power loss and do whatever auto-updates they need to do in the background so when I go to use them they just work.

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              So your oven/microwave/etc. are all good? No clock reset required?

              Your computer doesn’t take longer to boot if it doesn’t have backup power?

              The PS4 needed you to click one button and it moved on. It adds like 20s to boot time if it loses power.

              You’re not moving goalposts, you’re changing how score is kept dude

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                So your oven/microwave/etc. are all good? No clock reset required?

                Your computer doesn’t take longer to boot if it doesn’t have backup power?

                The PS4 needed you to click one button and it moved on. It adds like 20s to boot time if it loses power.

                You’re not moving goalposts, you’re changing how score is kept dude

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                I don’t understand where the confrontation came from, but I guess if that’s what you want you can have it. I literally told you two posts ago about how it’s not just waiting for 20s and clicking a button. It’s an attended upgrade and scrolling process. I won’t bother quoting what I wrote 3 minutes ago, go scroll up and read it again yourself. No, my microwave does not present me with EULAs when the power goes out.

                What “score” are you talking about? Do you take personal offense when a Sony product sucks? Did you invent the PlayStation or something? I was just sharing my lived experience.

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                  I don’t understand where the confrontation came from, but I guess if that’s what you want you can have it. I literally told you two posts ago about how it’s not just waiting for 20s and clicking a button. It’s an attended upgrade and scrolling process. I won’t bother quoting what I wrote 3 minutes ago, go scroll up and read it again yourself. No, my microwave does not present me with EULAs when the power goes out.

                  What “score” are you talking about? Do you take personal offense when a Sony product sucks? Did you invent the PlayStation or something? I was just sharing my lived experience.

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                  at this point I have to believe you are simply skimming and not actually reading what I’m writing. You’re saying things that are almost valid but don’t make sense when you actually look at the content of my comments.

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                    I don't get how Apple has to open their shit up (although they're certainly dragging their heels over it and sulking like a toddler) but Sony, MS and Nintendo don't.

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                    Microsoft seems to be preemptively doing that already.

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                      Agreed but you can play only offline without missing on much. I currently have the ps plus for a few more months, but I’m dropping it as the only one playing online is my son and hés playing fortnite.

                      But, if you’re an online player, it’s gonna be cheaper to play on pc.

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                      Agreed but you can play only offline without missing on much

                      That's such a bad take. Game companies are not allowed to have multiplayer that bypasses psn network.

                      The Sony and Nintendo have dominant positions in the game market for their consoles. The wallet garden must be breached for the consumer - why do you cate about company profits🙃

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                      • L [email protected]

                        Microsoft seems to be preemptively doing that already.

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                        Not because they're required to, but because their console platform is dying lol. I mean, I welcome the changes, but I'm sure long-time Xbox users are not as happy with it.

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                          Not because they're required to, but because their console platform is dying lol. I mean, I welcome the changes, but I'm sure long-time Xbox users are not as happy with it.

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                          It could also be a strategy to then lobby and make everyone else give up their stores, levelling the playing field.

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