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And here I thought the US was the one that treated our indigenous citizens like crap

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  • dastanktal@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

    And here I thought the US was the one that treated our indigenous citizens like crap

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    Why not both (and many other countries too)?

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      White European indigenous people.

      What a strange question.

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      To be fair, indigenous in this sort of context usually refers to a colonial state where the ruling group is different from the one there before a colonial empire got there. I don't usually see it used for populations that haven't been subject to conquest and occupation like that within the last millenia or so, even if it could technically fit, it'd be a bit redundant.

      Though if the history of, say, Ireland is any indication, historically when white Europeans end up in that kind of position they haven't faired much better.

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        Show me one place where indigenous people aren't treated like crap by the government

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        Haiti. The indigenous people were wiped out through disease and slavery.

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        • dastanktal@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

          Also good point. I guess New Zealand has been making strides by they are still having issues.

          Just funny to note because a lot of Americans view Europe as like this Ultra free place that has none of the issues the US has.

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          New Zealand recently just punished three politicians harshly for doing the Haka. They were protesting a proposed law to strip special constitutional privileges for the Maori stemming from the original colonial treaties. Those old British colonizers were apparently too respectful to the rights of the indigenous people for modern conservatives.

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            New Zealand recently just punished three politicians harshly for doing the Haka. They were protesting a proposed law to strip special constitutional privileges for the Maori stemming from the original colonial treaties. Those old British colonizers were apparently too respectful to the rights of the indigenous people for modern conservatives.

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            I did say strides but having issues. At least they have indigenous representation. US def doesnt

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              And here I thought the US was the one that treated our indigenous citizens like crap

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              So you don't really pay attention to the rest of world history, huh.

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                So you don't really pay attention to the rest of world history, huh.

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                Jokes really do go over your heads down under don't they.

                Also have you seen the tragedy that is the American school system? I am lucky I can read and write, forget knowing the history of a British penal colony.

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                  To be fair, indigenous in this sort of context usually refers to a colonial state where the ruling group is different from the one there before a colonial empire got there. I don't usually see it used for populations that haven't been subject to conquest and occupation like that within the last millenia or so, even if it could technically fit, it'd be a bit redundant.

                  Though if the history of, say, Ireland is any indication, historically when white Europeans end up in that kind of position they haven't faired much better.

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                  Sorry, I was just being dense for the sake of it; and you of course, are correct.

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                  • dastanktal@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                    Jokes really do go over your heads down under don't they.

                    Also have you seen the tragedy that is the American school system? I am lucky I can read and write, forget knowing the history of a British penal colony.

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                    Greenland.
                    British penal colony.

                    Ok.

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                      Greenland.
                      British penal colony.

                      Ok.

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                      For some reason I think I was referring to Australia. Not sure why

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                      • dastanktal@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                        For some reason I think I was referring to Australia. Not sure why

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                        Must be a fondness of non sequiturs

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