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Should i switch to linux? please tell me why or why not.

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  • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

    So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

    I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

    What would you advise?

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    Linux probably wouldn't make your games any faster, but it could make the OS feel snappier.

    Reasons to switch:

    • you hate Windows
    • you like to customize stuff
    • you're curious about Linux
    • you don't play many MP games
    • you tend to leave a ton of stuff open, which makes things run slowly
    • saving 40GB or so of space means the world to you (Linux is pretty lean)

    Reasons not to switch:

    • you need Windows-specific software, like Adobe stuff or games w/ anti-cheat
    • you're not interested in tinkering at all, and having any minor issue would frustrate you
    • you want the best possible performance for games

    Linux is better at memory and task management, generally speaking, but performance in specific apps depends a ton on the specific app, from being slightly better to being noticeable worse.

    As for which Linux distro to go with, I hear good things about Linux Mint, though I don't use it myself. But honestly, look at the most popular distros and find one that looks cool to you, they're all pretty good. Ones to check out are:

    • Debian (or Linux Mint Debian Edition) - ol' reliable, may have some issues on newer games
    • Fedora - tries to be close to bleeding edge, without as many sharp edges
    • Bazzite - gaming focus, tries to imitate Steam OS
    • openSUSE Tumbleweed - my personal daily driver, though I generally don't recommend it for new users since there's not a huge community to find help

    There are tons more great ones. If you list your must-have apps/games, maybe someone can give a better recommendation, though honestly most distros are similar enough that if it works on one, it'll work anywhere.

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      NixOS if you absolutely hate having things work easily and learning transferrable knowledge.

      Ouch. Accurate, but ouch. šŸ˜„

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      I only roast NixOS from a place of love.

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      • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

        So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

        I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

        What would you advise?

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        Your biggest issue is going to be dealing with multiple partitions, unless you can find another boot disk, because your disk is pretty full. I would strongly recommend getting a second disk, unless you are willing to delete a lot of (presumably) game executables.

        It is also a good idea to have a relatively smaller Linux partition, and point your Steam library and other documents to a separate data partition. My 1TB nvme has 150MB EFI FAT32 partition, a 100GB ext4 root partition (Linux is installed here), and the remaining ~900GB as my ext4 data partition. This way, if you choose to install a different Linux, or blow away your root partition, you can relink your Steam/Music/Video Libraries and local AI models, and get up and running again very quickly.

        Outside of the disk, my top recommendation is to archive your active steam games, so you can restore them into Linux without fully re-downloading later. Additionally, unless your games are in Steam Cloud, you will also have a bit of a time restoring save files to the new OS, as the file paths will be different than you are used to on Windows.

        My second recommendation is to ensure secure boot is disabled in your BIOS; there are currently known issues with driver signing with the NVIDIA driver.

        Finally, assuming you’re on a Ubuntu-based distro like Mint, ensure you install Steam from the .deb or apt package, not the flatpak. On Mint, ā€œInstall Steamā€ is available right in the start menu.

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          Linux takes like 5-10mins to setup. You can dedicate your first day/week to trying out a few different flavors to see which one you like.

          I'd try distro's in this order Mint with Cinnamon > fedora KDE > Ubuntu Gnome > cachyOS if you're a baller > Arch if you want to learn and break things while doing it > NixOS if you absolutely hate having things work easily and learning transferable knowledge.

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          In the past certain distros were better for certain tasks, but not really anymore. The thing that separates distros is how they do package management and how many packages they have. All that's to say, just pick something easy to start with like Kubuntu, Mint, or Debian if you're ok with older software.

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            Linux probably wouldn't make your games any faster, but it could make the OS feel snappier.

            Reasons to switch:

            • you hate Windows
            • you like to customize stuff
            • you're curious about Linux
            • you don't play many MP games
            • you tend to leave a ton of stuff open, which makes things run slowly
            • saving 40GB or so of space means the world to you (Linux is pretty lean)

            Reasons not to switch:

            • you need Windows-specific software, like Adobe stuff or games w/ anti-cheat
            • you're not interested in tinkering at all, and having any minor issue would frustrate you
            • you want the best possible performance for games

            Linux is better at memory and task management, generally speaking, but performance in specific apps depends a ton on the specific app, from being slightly better to being noticeable worse.

            As for which Linux distro to go with, I hear good things about Linux Mint, though I don't use it myself. But honestly, look at the most popular distros and find one that looks cool to you, they're all pretty good. Ones to check out are:

            • Debian (or Linux Mint Debian Edition) - ol' reliable, may have some issues on newer games
            • Fedora - tries to be close to bleeding edge, without as many sharp edges
            • Bazzite - gaming focus, tries to imitate Steam OS
            • openSUSE Tumbleweed - my personal daily driver, though I generally don't recommend it for new users since there's not a huge community to find help

            There are tons more great ones. If you list your must-have apps/games, maybe someone can give a better recommendation, though honestly most distros are similar enough that if it works on one, it'll work anywhere.

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            Just a point about phrasing but pretty much all MP games work flawlessly, just not the esports titles with draconian anticheats.

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              In the past certain distros were better for certain tasks, but not really anymore. The thing that separates distros is how they do package management and how many packages they have. All that's to say, just pick something easy to start with like Kubuntu, Mint, or Debian if you're ok with older software.

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              Yeah but for a new user its nice to see how different groups configure linux out of the box. Once you know what you're doing you can tweak the distro to your liking but new users seem to search for a default they like and stick with it until comfortable.

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              • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                My biggest problem right now it picking a linux destitution or os. There's so many how do i choose?

                Also if anyone is wondering this machine is a overpriced prebuild i got because my parents forced me to pick a prebuild instead of building a pc.

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                And there’s the issue. Guy is confused, and everyone is recommending him ten thousand distros. We need to understand that not everyone understands half of what we talk about more than half the time.

                OP: just get mint, try it out, make a thread again in a couple months if you need help choosing another distro.

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                • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                  So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

                  I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

                  What would you advise?

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                  Switch when Microsoft ads, bloat, telemetry and reboots starts to test your sanity.
                  Didn't switch if everything seems fine.

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                  • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                    So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

                    I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

                    What would you advise?

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                    Just dual boot. Boot in to Linux only for a week or two, if it's working for your needs keep it. If not, delete the partition and it's like nothing ever happened.

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                      Just dual boot. Boot in to Linux only for a week or two, if it's working for your needs keep it. If not, delete the partition and it's like nothing ever happened.

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                      Dual boot is the way.

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                      • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                        So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

                        I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

                        What would you advise?

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                        1. Load onto USB thumb drive and boot into it to see if you like the outline feel. Try different ones (Debian is good)
                        2. Dual boot If you like outline feel from USB drive
                        3. Give it a month as your daily driver
                        4. Consider the Chris Titus option of thinned down windows.

                        I'm using Debian on my machine and it just works.

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                        • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                          My biggest problem right now it picking a linux destitution or os. There's so many how do i choose?

                          Also if anyone is wondering this machine is a overpriced prebuild i got because my parents forced me to pick a prebuild instead of building a pc.

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                          I'm still going to ask how you ended up with a server CPU. Does it help with the tasks you do?

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                            1. Load onto USB thumb drive and boot into it to see if you like the outline feel. Try different ones (Debian is good)
                            2. Dual boot If you like outline feel from USB drive
                            3. Give it a month as your daily driver
                            4. Consider the Chris Titus option of thinned down windows.

                            I'm using Debian on my machine and it just works.

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                            Mint is better IMHO, it’s based on Ubuntu which is in turn based on Debian, but includes quality of life improvements and newer packages. Debian is nice for servers, but I would get something that is stable but still has faster updates for my desktop

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                            • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                              So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

                              I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

                              What would you advise?

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                              Iirc Intel xeon is shitty, installing linux might make your overall experience with your computer better. Especially if you run something like xfce as the desktop environment.

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                                Just dual boot. Boot in to Linux only for a week or two, if it's working for your needs keep it. If not, delete the partition and it's like nothing ever happened.

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                                I wouldn't even go that far. Boot to a live USB of a distro you want to try.

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                                • grumpycat@leminal.spaceG [email protected]

                                  So i have a gaming desktop that not the best or the newest. What takes up most of my drive space is games, updates, and software's. Im wondering if i should switch to linux and if linux will improve any performance for my main machine? If you believe i should switch what os should i go with or why or why not should i switch?

                                  I mostly game and do mess with ollama/ai tools because i think that's cool. I want to do more things in the future but that might beyond my drive space?

                                  What would you advise?

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                                  64 GB DDR3, interesting. That's a lot for that old tech.

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                                    Just dual boot. Boot in to Linux only for a week or two, if it's working for your needs keep it. If not, delete the partition and it's like nothing ever happened.

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                                    Just dual boot.

                                    They'd "just" have to do a lot of potentially hazardous work for a beginner, shrinking their Windows partition to make room for another partition.

                                    Nah, VM is the way. Try it out, see what flies.

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                                      Iirc Intel xeon is shitty, installing linux might make your overall experience with your computer better. Especially if you run something like xfce as the desktop environment.

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                                      Xeon are just server SKUs, nothing wrong with them.

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                                        Xeon are just server SKUs, nothing wrong with them.

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                                        oooh, i had them confused with celerons

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                                          Linux probably wouldn't make your games any faster, but it could make the OS feel snappier.

                                          Reasons to switch:

                                          • you hate Windows
                                          • you like to customize stuff
                                          • you're curious about Linux
                                          • you don't play many MP games
                                          • you tend to leave a ton of stuff open, which makes things run slowly
                                          • saving 40GB or so of space means the world to you (Linux is pretty lean)

                                          Reasons not to switch:

                                          • you need Windows-specific software, like Adobe stuff or games w/ anti-cheat
                                          • you're not interested in tinkering at all, and having any minor issue would frustrate you
                                          • you want the best possible performance for games

                                          Linux is better at memory and task management, generally speaking, but performance in specific apps depends a ton on the specific app, from being slightly better to being noticeable worse.

                                          As for which Linux distro to go with, I hear good things about Linux Mint, though I don't use it myself. But honestly, look at the most popular distros and find one that looks cool to you, they're all pretty good. Ones to check out are:

                                          • Debian (or Linux Mint Debian Edition) - ol' reliable, may have some issues on newer games
                                          • Fedora - tries to be close to bleeding edge, without as many sharp edges
                                          • Bazzite - gaming focus, tries to imitate Steam OS
                                          • openSUSE Tumbleweed - my personal daily driver, though I generally don't recommend it for new users since there's not a huge community to find help

                                          There are tons more great ones. If you list your must-have apps/games, maybe someone can give a better recommendation, though honestly most distros are similar enough that if it works on one, it'll work anywhere.

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                                          Debian (or Linux Mint Debian Edition) - ol’ reliable, may have some issues on newer games

                                          Used to, in the first year after Steam Linux client released, because of old libc. But since then, I've had only one or two games not work because of nvidia drivers not being new enough.

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