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    Point stands for the West in general. It's all American vassels anyway

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    Suuuure.

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      Suuuure.

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      People will complain about .ml users being toxic and then act like this

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        People will complain about .ml users being toxic and then act like this

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        No. They didn't. Not a single lemmy user has ever claimed this. Not ever. You are lying. You are openly lying and you know it.

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        • B [email protected]

          Yeah man, that's much worse than anything the West is doing....

          Do you people hear yourselves?

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          what do you mean by your question?

          when we experience their abuses firsthand, what should have we heard? they make people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers and online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

          i acknowledge that the Ph has problematic ties with the US for decades. but at the present, the Chinese government and Chinese criminal organizations are giving us more problems.

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            what do you mean by your question?

            when we experience their abuses firsthand, what should have we heard? they make people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers and online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

            i acknowledge that the Ph has problematic ties with the US for decades. but at the present, the Chinese government and Chinese criminal organizations are giving us more problems.

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            what do you mean by your question?

            I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.

            when we experience their abuses firsthand

            Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren't real?

            people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

            You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? "Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!"

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              what do you mean by your question?

              I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.

              when we experience their abuses firsthand

              Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren't real?

              people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

              You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? "Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!"

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              I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse...
              i didnt. i didnt write that China is the worse evil? have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us who have been invaded by these nations?

              i acknowledge that we also have problems with the US. our history is riddled with that. we also have been victims of abuses from Japan during the war, which they dont recognize. in the present, many of our problems from the outside come from China. like the countless lives lost because of their drug syndicates here.

              or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza? because to me, both are unfortunate.

              thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil. yes, even counting all the astrocities of the western world that you pointed out. because China is as evil as them.

              just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US. that is such a narrow-minded take.

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                I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse...
                i didnt. i didnt write that China is the worse evil? have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us who have been invaded by these nations?

                i acknowledge that we also have problems with the US. our history is riddled with that. we also have been victims of abuses from Japan during the war, which they dont recognize. in the present, many of our problems from the outside come from China. like the countless lives lost because of their drug syndicates here.

                or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza? because to me, both are unfortunate.

                thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil. yes, even counting all the astrocities of the western world that you pointed out. because China is as evil as them.

                just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US. that is such a narrow-minded take.

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                have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us

                That's just as absurd. Be serious; if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that's no worse than what they currently do? Because that's what the west does and is doing.

                or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza?

                Yes, less people dying is not as bad as more important dying, that should go without saying. If the Filipino government has killed a single person, does that make it as bad as the Holocaust?

                because to me, both are unfortunate.

                And one is vastly more "unfortunate". (I would say horrific and monstrous, but sure "unfortunate").

                thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil.

                Then I cannot count the Filipines as a lesser evil to the Nazis; if proportionality means nothing and all evils are equal, then you are as evil as the Nazis.

                just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US.

                If you believe of the far worse atrocities of the US do not make it worse than China, then yes, you are pro US, because you have a double standard that favours them.

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                  have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us

                  That's just as absurd. Be serious; if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that's no worse than what they currently do? Because that's what the west does and is doing.

                  or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza?

                  Yes, less people dying is not as bad as more important dying, that should go without saying. If the Filipino government has killed a single person, does that make it as bad as the Holocaust?

                  because to me, both are unfortunate.

                  And one is vastly more "unfortunate". (I would say horrific and monstrous, but sure "unfortunate").

                  thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil.

                  Then I cannot count the Filipines as a lesser evil to the Nazis; if proportionality means nothing and all evils are equal, then you are as evil as the Nazis.

                  just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US.

                  If you believe of the far worse atrocities of the US do not make it worse than China, then yes, you are pro US, because you have a double standard that favours them.

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                  oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

                  if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that’s no worse than what they currently do?
                  well, i dont have to wait long to know for sure. will update you soon. why not ask the indigenous groups that they are wiping out.

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                    oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

                    if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that’s no worse than what they currently do?
                    well, i dont have to wait long to know for sure. will update you soon. why not ask the indigenous groups that they are wiping out.

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                    oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

                    Understandable.

                    well, i dont have to wait long to know for sure. will update you soon.

                    ???????

                    why not ask the indigenous groups that they are wiping out.

                    ?????

                    This is bordering on Gaza genocide trivialization, mate. This is pretty vile.

                    oh im sorry about my use of the word unfortunate. english is not my first language so my vocabulary is not as expansive as yours.

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                      I appreciate that but if you troll them with dumb takes and bad faith arguments, you are only strengthening their views and making them look smarter

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                      Don't worry, the people complaining about "tankies" are so tribalist that you can make the dumbest laziest takes imaginable, and the 'tankie' can give the most well thought out, nuanced and rational comment imaginable, and they'll all still agree with you anyway.

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