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Was plex ever good or was it designed to be a rug pull?

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    It was really good in the past but their business model was unsustainable, so they put in more and more bullshit. Parts of it are still better than Jellyfin like cross-platform support and some of their clients like the music player.

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    Yeah plex was awesome when it was just a fork of XBMC but it’s just another story of someone taking an open source project and privatising it to enshitify it.

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    • B [email protected]

      Privacy concerns and the fact that they now make you pay to access your own media remotely.

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      Ah ok, thanks.

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      • B [email protected]

        I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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        Bought lifetime membership 11/12 years ago. Never had a problem. I need a VPN with dedicated IP to deal with the double NAT from my ISP, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

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        • B [email protected]

          I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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          Good question to start a circle jerk. 👍

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          • B [email protected]

            I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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            Plex is great. If you have ever supported the company by buying a lifetime pass nothing has ever been “rug pulled”.

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            • zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.comZ [email protected]

              I contracted at plex for 6 months. The employees really care. The developers were very concerned with making the absolute best media server possible. The QA team was doing crazy stuff to try to keep everything working.

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              How long ago? Because it looks the MBAs are in charge now.

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              • B [email protected]

                I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                Rug pull IMO. Just use kodi

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                • B [email protected]

                  I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                  I had never seen anyone seriously praising Plex as good until I came to Lemmy. There are so many better tools that are completely FOSS. Hell, the in-built filesharing in most OSs are all you really need. My whole media server just runs off SAMBA. I can access it anywhere from anything.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                    Plex was great in 2001 2004 when I had videos on my Macintosh and I wanted to play them using the PS2 PS3 hooked up to the television.

                    20 years is a long time for a rug pull. I think they just found themselves more excited about money after a while.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                      I was there. 3000 years ago.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                        It was never good, imo.

                        Just another way to overcomplicate things so losers can fit in with losers.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                          Plex is still the most feature rich and easiest to set up, both for admins and users.

                          I do not want to expose Jellyfin ports to the internet, nor teach and troubleshoot an extra service like Tailscale for friends and family. I send a Plex invite, they download the app (available on pretty much every device) and we're done.

                          Projects like Kometa and some Tautulli integrations let you customize and organize your Plex media in ways just not possible in Jellyfin yet (to my knowledge). For example, I hate spoilers in TV shows, and I have all episode thumbnails automatically blurred and episode summaries censored. I don't like how Jellyfin handles collections, while Kometa is simply fantastic for letting me automate collection maintenance for any criteria I can think of.

                          I am currently running both, mostly to keep an eye on Jellyfin's progress, but it's hard to argue that Plex is a more polished and streamlined experience.

                          I have Plex pass and feel I've got more than my money's worth. I don't feel like anything has been "rug pulled" from under me and I've yet to see any features I paid for get removed. I am not a fan of the recent "trending with friends" fiasco and I wouldn't hesitate to use Jellyfin more if the features were there, but right now it's just not there yet.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                            I think it is still pretty great, if you are a Plex lifetime pass user.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                              It is entirely unfair to call such an old, well developed and we'll supported piece of free software a rug pull. Many features remain free too...

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                              • B [email protected]

                                I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                                It was always going to be a rug pull, they basically took XBMC and ffmpeg, made a "cloud" based front end for it and started asking people for money.

                                At no point was it anything other then an attempt to cash in on pirates. At some point I guess they realized all those "lifetime" subscription purchases would dry up and they started Partnering with or buying up other streaming content so they could at least pretend to be offering something else but that can only get them so far financially.

                                It might have been short sighted rather then an intentional rug pull, but obviously running a service like Plex requires an constant stream of funding, and when your loyalist users are the ones who paid a relativly small lump sum early on, it gets harder and harder to keep revenue coming in from new users and monthly subscribers.

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Plex is still the most feature rich and easiest to set up, both for admins and users.

                                  I do not want to expose Jellyfin ports to the internet, nor teach and troubleshoot an extra service like Tailscale for friends and family. I send a Plex invite, they download the app (available on pretty much every device) and we're done.

                                  Projects like Kometa and some Tautulli integrations let you customize and organize your Plex media in ways just not possible in Jellyfin yet (to my knowledge). For example, I hate spoilers in TV shows, and I have all episode thumbnails automatically blurred and episode summaries censored. I don't like how Jellyfin handles collections, while Kometa is simply fantastic for letting me automate collection maintenance for any criteria I can think of.

                                  I am currently running both, mostly to keep an eye on Jellyfin's progress, but it's hard to argue that Plex is a more polished and streamlined experience.

                                  I have Plex pass and feel I've got more than my money's worth. I don't feel like anything has been "rug pulled" from under me and I've yet to see any features I paid for get removed. I am not a fan of the recent "trending with friends" fiasco and I wouldn't hesitate to use Jellyfin more if the features were there, but right now it's just not there yet.

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                                  After I set up my server and paid for the hardware, after my vpn, and after I paid for my Usenet subscription, and yeah, after I paid for lifetime Plex. I'm money ahead. Easily.

                                  I have no Netflix, Hulu, apple, Amazon. All of it. ,that's a monthly sub for each. That's satellite tv money each month!

                                  It's not a rug pull. I got my money's worth. And I'm late to the game. God forbid you are an early bird and have been living the high life for years and years! It's not a rug pull at all.

                                  If the whole thing folded tomorrow, I'm still money ahead and a few steps away from adopting jellyfin. How the fuck is that a rug pull?
                                  It did what I wanted and has done it well. And when or if it fails, I move on. That's more resiliency than 99 percent of the other services I have used. And a better service and platform to boot!

                                  Rug pull? seriously?

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                                  • C [email protected]

                                    Plex is still the most feature rich and easiest to set up, both for admins and users.

                                    I do not want to expose Jellyfin ports to the internet, nor teach and troubleshoot an extra service like Tailscale for friends and family. I send a Plex invite, they download the app (available on pretty much every device) and we're done.

                                    Projects like Kometa and some Tautulli integrations let you customize and organize your Plex media in ways just not possible in Jellyfin yet (to my knowledge). For example, I hate spoilers in TV shows, and I have all episode thumbnails automatically blurred and episode summaries censored. I don't like how Jellyfin handles collections, while Kometa is simply fantastic for letting me automate collection maintenance for any criteria I can think of.

                                    I am currently running both, mostly to keep an eye on Jellyfin's progress, but it's hard to argue that Plex is a more polished and streamlined experience.

                                    I have Plex pass and feel I've got more than my money's worth. I don't feel like anything has been "rug pulled" from under me and I've yet to see any features I paid for get removed. I am not a fan of the recent "trending with friends" fiasco and I wouldn't hesitate to use Jellyfin more if the features were there, but right now it's just not there yet.

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                                    I have mine on reverse proxy

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                                      In the beginning it was quite good. And innovative, but as aged, it went from a local app, like jellyfin, to a centralized one. Their api server crashed once and plex was absolutely useless. Later, they started feeling pressure from the big rights holders and started to pivot to a media hub, and away from pirated content.

                                      I jumped ship shortly after the api server crash, if I couldn't use a local app to watch local content on my network, I didn't want anything to do with it.

                                      I have a lifetime sub to plex and haven't spun it up in over 6 years.

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                                      Likewise. Lifetime pass, but I’ll never touch their product again. They really dicked over a lot of people to please corporate threats. Now it’s just an enshittified dumpster fire to me.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        I remember being excited when it first came out, but then as we know capitalism happened and ruined it. Im all jellyfin now. But was plex originally starting out to be a good thing or was it just to trick us into being locked into their service after we all got on it?

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                                        Well, enjoy your downgrade to jellyfin.

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          It was really good in the past but their business model was unsustainable, so they put in more and more bullshit. Parts of it are still better than Jellyfin like cross-platform support and some of their clients like the music player.

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                                          their business model was unsustainable,

                                          So stop development, problem solved. Seriously, that's all anyone wanted. Just keep selling the mobile app, people will keep buying it. Update it once a year and don't change anything else. They probably could have continued to run everything with one or two developers.

                                          It kills me that they took something good and turned it to shit rather than letting it be.

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