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'My Advice to Users Is to Accept Reality and Tune, or to Not Play' — Randy Pitchford Is at the 'Get a Refund From Steam' Stage of the Borderlands 4 PC Performance Backlash

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  • S [email protected]

    What's crazy is how inconsistent the problems seem to be. I've got a 4080 Super and a decent processor, and I'm getting 120-140fps with most settings as high as they can go with frame gen on at 1440p. Only crashed once in about 40 hours of gameplay.

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    I am going to need to double check my settings then. I might have only enabled DLSS and not frame gen.

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      I played the first one but after that the formula felt pretty samey and I was bored of it. Would a fourth Borderlands game even be good if it wasn't laggy?

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      Don't let the name fool you, it's the sixth game.

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        Sorry I can't hear you Randy. I am playing silksong and after that, I am doing another BG3 playthrough.

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          Why is he like this?

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          • 58008@lemmy.world5 [email protected]

            Why is he like this?

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            his new game is failing. He must keep it in the zeitgeist for as long as possible. This is just some guy trying to be relevant

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            • 58008@lemmy.world5 [email protected]

              Why is he like this?

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              For a long time he was told by everyone in public and in private that he was awesome and perfect, and the greatest game developer, which made him a ton of money and very famous. Now his latest game is failing and his overinflated ego is panicking.

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              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                Was going to say... Who is out there buying games way outside their machines' specs? Seems pretty straightforward.

                I do get a little annoyed at the folks angry at BL4 using a higher end engine. Like, it does look a lot better than previous iterations. That engine upgrade wasn't for nothing.

                There are a ton of looter shooters floating around that aren't using the Unreal 5 engine. Just play one of those instead. Hell, go back and play BL1. I'm pretty sure that thing runs on a toaster.

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                UE5 can run fine on older hardware, but most devs either aren't given the time to properly optimize or don't give a fuck about it and would rather rely on upscaling and frame gen tech.

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                  BL4 is running horribly, even on higher end PCs. I have a 4090 and a decent processor, but only getting 80FPS max with a good few settings on low or off and AI frame gen on (I would rather not, but performance is just that bad).

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                  I've got a 6800xt and it runs really well on medium settings. Looks pretty good as well. Never had the game crash on me either. It's 60fps but I'm cool with that. Gameplay feels smooth at that and it's steady. No upscaling no frame Gen. 3440x1440.

                  I have heard a lot of people are having issues with Nvidia hardware though.

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                  • theloweststone@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    I was going to do that originally but now I'm never playing it.

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                    I'm not going to punish the entire development team just because he's a tool.

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                      You should get it for free elsewhere. Don't give this asshole your money.

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                      That's an option, but there were a lot of people involved in making the game. I'm not a fan of collective punishment. They most probably did their best, he's just a shit spokesperson.

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                        Why is he like this?

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                        It's the year of the wealthy personalities who dont keep their mouth shut because they believe they are right and everyone will agree with their points and love them.

                        Happening right now with Mark Cuban on the NBA side.

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                        • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          I have come to accept that this is a PR campaign to plaster the name everywhere all over social media and let it worm its way into currently pissed off gamers' heads for a few months down the line when they've calmed down and inevitably buy the fucking thing.

                          Pitchford is a slimeball. Rarely has a man who is allegedly not an insurance or used-car salesman given off such nakedly scummy vibes.

                          We need to stop giving free publicity to this little marketing man, and to this poorly optimised, expensive game.

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                          I don't think there's anything that well thought out, and it's just someone who takes things personally and cant resist blurting out their thoughts.

                          Since after what he said my thinking was even if my friends beg me to get the game on discount I wont because of how personally irritated the comments have made me.

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                            This has been there already with Ubisoft games. It wont end well for the IP and also, the main problem is Randy Pitchford. That problem wont be fixed any time soon.

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                              I'm not going to punish the entire development team just because he's a tool.

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                              They got paid already and most of them will be laid off or moved to different projects by the time the games is $20.

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                                Gearbox was been scummy for a while now. Customers can learn to stop giving them money or can keep putting up with this.

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                                Borderlands 3 kinda sucked it. I realized when I played it that they had hit peak during Borderlands 2.

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                                  I haven't played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you're a 9 year old who's never played, and it's all on mom's dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

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                                    I haven't played 4, but I played 1, 2, and a bit of the presequel or whatever it was called. They were essentially all the same game. Run, shoot, run, shoot, hear vaguely off-color joke, run, shoot. Is there any particular reason to bother with an overpriced remake of the same old game? Is there a reason for worrying about 4KUHD textures on a game where the aesthetic is cartoony? If you're a 9 year old who's never played, and it's all on mom's dime, I could see being tricked into buying it by the advertisers, but why is anyone else excited about it?

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                                    Any interest I had in the game, which was already fairly minimal, was completely obliterated when the price was announced.

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                                      For a long time he was told by everyone in public and in private that he was awesome and perfect, and the greatest game developer, which made him a ton of money and very famous. Now his latest game is failing and his overinflated ego is panicking.

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                                      Was he?

                                      Personally I've always thought of him as a bit of a prick.

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                                        I'm not going to punish the entire development team just because he's a tool.

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                                        It's not that he's a tool it's at the game it has poor performance. And being a tool is just a guarantee that issue will never be fixed.

                                        So in a way I kind of do blame the team, they must have done testing they know what the performance is like.

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                                          He can deep-throat my dad's days-dead dog's decaying dong.

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