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Lemmy Just Broke the 54k MAU Record Set During the 2023 API Exodus!

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  • N [email protected]

    The MAU of lemmy.world is ~18,600 which is a bit greater than the combined MAU of the next 7 instances (a big help here is lemm.ee which has ~7000 MAU). This is a really healthy spread of users and it means we don't lose lemmy if the biggest instance goes down.

    Compare that to Mastodon, where mastodon.social has more MAU (~372,000) than the combined MAU of the next 30 instances at least (I gave up counting). Thats not healthy for the ecosystem. Though tbf the total MAU of mastodon is ~899,000 so without mastodon.social they will still have ~527,000 but it will be very spread out.

    db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    I don't think it's healthy enough but certainly better than the mastodon ecosystem

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    • B [email protected]

      Currently using phtn.app for browsing lemmy, though it’s a bit buggy on mobile. V2 will be coming soon so hopefully most bugs will be fixed.

      What y’all using?

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      #37

      Tesseract on desktop and mobile.

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      • B [email protected]

        Reddit is calculating its MAU differently. They seem to be counting even not-logged-in users coming from search engines - without that numbers like "1 billion monthly active users" really don't make any sense and even that is a crazy metric, if you think about it. There is no way that 1/8 of humanity is browsing on Reddit in a month. Lemmy seems to count only users who are doing something (submitting, commenting, upvoting)

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        #38

        If they're doing that, it means they're counting unique IPs, which is a ridiculous metric. Even lemmy would have easily 10x the MAU with it.

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          I think this is where lemmy/fediverse shines compared to reddit: you can have instances for niche things, yet be able to communicate with other instances. And each instance is free to have their own rules and (de)federate with others. Also the improved tools for searching/posting/modding of lemmy compared with old forums.

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          #39

          Sure. I mean, having a single log-in for all of that is definitely useful, as is being able to chat with others. Defederation as a moderation tool is... overrated, but it is there.

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          • mudman@fedia.ioM [email protected]

            Sure. I mean, having a single log-in for all of that is definitely useful, as is being able to chat with others. Defederation as a moderation tool is... overrated, but it is there.

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            Why do you think defederation is overrated? Genuine curiosity.

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            • B [email protected]

              I tried it but I have one beef with it: once logged in, my subscribed communities are no longer appearing and i have to resubbscribe to all of them. I did it once on phtn and wouldn't want to do it all over again as I'm hopping around lemmy apps.

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              #41

              Wait, aren't community subscriptions synced with your account?

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                #42

                Reddit is inflating its numbers by a wide margin.

                A sub like https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/ has 150k subscribers, but the activity definitely doesn't reflect that compared to [email protected] and the 9k weekly active users

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                • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                  Wait, aren't community subscriptions synced with your account?

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                  #43

                  I thought so, but at least in Voyagger iOS after I logged in I had no subscriptions. I didn't bother to double check for now as I'm quite happy with phtn.

                  LE: reinstalled voyager and now I have my subscriptions linked with my account. Looks dope too.

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                  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                    I don't think it's healthy enough but certainly better than the mastodon ecosystem

                    asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    It's mostly because people keep recommending LW instead of other instances.

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                    • N [email protected]

                      The MAU of lemmy.world is ~18,600 which is a bit greater than the combined MAU of the next 7 instances (a big help here is lemm.ee which has ~7000 MAU). This is a really healthy spread of users and it means we don't lose lemmy if the biggest instance goes down.

                      Compare that to Mastodon, where mastodon.social has more MAU (~372,000) than the combined MAU of the next 30 instances at least (I gave up counting). Thats not healthy for the ecosystem. Though tbf the total MAU of mastodon is ~899,000 so without mastodon.social they will still have ~527,000 but it will be very spread out.

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                      #45

                      I think the biggest instance, lemmy.world, not being operated by the Lemmy devs is also a good health indicator - on every other Fedi service I can think of, the server run by the devs is the biggest by far.

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                      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                        If they're doing that, it means they're counting unique IPs, which is a ridiculous metric. Even lemmy would have easily 10x the MAU with it.

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                        #46

                        Again, doesn't matter. There's data on logged in users and it's also many orders of magnitude larger than Fedi.

                        By most independent metrics Reddit has more visits than Netflix. Than Pornhub, while we're at it. It's one of the top ten most visited sites on the Internet, and by most accounts it's actually grown since the "exodus".

                        I don't use it and I do like it here, but the idea that Lemmy is somehow encroaching on it is absurd. And self-defeating, too. Lemmy and its satellites are very worthwhile for what they are... but just a gnat in the wind as a Reddit alternative. Better to measure them on their own merits.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          Currently using phtn.app for browsing lemmy, though it’s a bit buggy on mobile. V2 will be coming soon so hopefully most bugs will be fixed.

                          What y’all using?

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                          #47

                          Boost for Lemmy on Android.

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                            I flipping love Lemmy.

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                            • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA [email protected]

                              It's mostly because people keep recommending LW instead of other instances.

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                              I didn’t really understand this on the way in. Is there an explanation somewhere. I found a mobile browser app and it sort of stuck me on one without me being able to select.

                              I think I’m with lemme ee?

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                                Currently using phtn.app for browsing lemmy, though it’s a bit buggy on mobile. V2 will be coming soon so hopefully most bugs will be fixed.

                                What y’all using?

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                                Thunder. I used to use Sync for reddit before, and used it a bit for Lemmy. But I like thunder a bit more.

                                I also use Interstellar for mbin.

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                                  Thunder. I used to use Sync for reddit before, and used it a bit for Lemmy. But I like thunder a bit more.

                                  I also use Interstellar for mbin.

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                                  Interesting. Is mbin the same as kbin or?

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                                    I didn’t really understand this on the way in. Is there an explanation somewhere. I found a mobile browser app and it sort of stuck me on one without me being able to select.

                                    I think I’m with lemme ee?

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                                    Anyone can put Lemmy on their website

                                    All the Lemmy websites talk to each other

                                    You went to the website lemm.ee, so you're a lemm.ee user

                                    It's good for the network if people don't all use the same website

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                                      Anyone can put Lemmy on their website

                                      All the Lemmy websites talk to each other

                                      You went to the website lemm.ee, so you're a lemm.ee user

                                      It's good for the network if people don't all use the same website

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                                      Got it. Is there a way for me to transfer or do you just register into a new account once I figure out the best server for me?

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                                        Slow and steady wins the race. Also helps to not be shit. looking at reddit.

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                                          Got it. Is there a way for me to transfer or do you just register into a new account once I figure out the best server for me?

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                                          You have to make a new account in order to move instances. But I think you can export your subscriptions.

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