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  • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

    My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

    Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

    I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

    That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

    FOSS forever! ✊

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    #85

    That's unfortunate. Both for throwing out all of your work and replacing it with an objectively inferior solution with poor track record of long-term sustainability.

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    • brandon@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

      Please be careful when copying anything that could be considered your employer's intellectual property off of that employer's systems. And definitely be even more careful about using one employer's IP for a new employer (neither company would be pleased to discover this).

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      #86

      Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on

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      • trk@aussie.zoneT This user is from outside of this forum
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        Many years ago I did post mix installs. Because we were subcontract, it was not unusual to install a system for one company, then replace it under the banner of another company, and then rip that out and install another system on behalf of the first company again.

        I can think of at least 3 different venues in our CBD that I swapped like that.

        What it did was make me real good at ensuring anything I installed was easy to follow and work with afterwards... Cause it was probably going to be me again lol

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          Please be careful when copying anything that could be considered your employer’s intellectual property

          Very unlikely $NEW_EMPLOYER will run all your ideas past $OLD_EMPLOYER to see if it's their code...

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          Will they even know if they are throwing it all away?

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          • C [email protected]

            Shutdown: noun

            Shut down: verb

            You can't straddle the lane.

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            #89

            shutdown: command

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            • O [email protected]

              It's incredible how that proprietary software is actually inefficient e-waste. Most FOSS isn't bloated or slow, but proprietary software got the high ground because of contracts and "security", I'm sure.

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              #90

              I always advocate for FOSS solutions at my work, but most of the time I get shut down with some variation of “We prefer $MSP’s solution because it gives us someone else to blame if shit hits the fan”. I hate that sentiment, but I appreciate the honesty.

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                But it's also difficult to prove you didn't make it similarly 2 times. Just do some name changing, reordering and some slight changes and you should be golden.

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                #91

                I don’t know if there’s any precedence for this, but I could see a court asking to see the git commit log if things went that far.

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                • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                  Yeah, I had some cool Ansible integrations, Docker containers running internal infrastructure monitoring, OSTicket FOSS ticketing system, Open Project for project management, Tailscale for secure remote access, etc.

                  Oh well, I got a bunch of great experience building it, and I can still use that stuff on my own infrastructure at home.

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                  [email protected] and find yourself so many projects at home you'll never find time for anything but computers again 🙂

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                  • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                    My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                    Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                    I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                    That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                    FOSS forever! ✊

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                    #93

                    That sucks. I know what it’s like to feel like the only voice of reason when your company is shooting itself in the foot.

                    I see from other comments you’re already looking for a new job, which is a very good idea. From your description of this buyout, it seems very likely that you’re about 6 months to a year out from the layoff stage of the private equity playbook.

                    At the end of the day you’ll always have the experience you gained from building all that stuff. Perhaps you’ll get a chance to build it back even better somewhere else!

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                    • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                      My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                      Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                      I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                      That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                      FOSS forever! ✊

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                      #94

                      At the end of the day, they are just digital things. You had some great learning experiences with them. Now it's time to put those skills to use, and learn what's next that makes you happy.

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                      • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                        My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                        Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                        I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                        That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                        FOSS forever! ✊

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                        Start your own company 🙂

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                        • treadful@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                          I know it’s dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                          Sadly, something we all have to get used to. Everything we do is ephemeral and the next guy will likely have better/different ideas on how to do things.

                          Basically everything I've ever built has been torn down or somehow bastardized eventually.

                          drly@lemmy.mlD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          the next guy will likely have better/different ideas on how to do things.
                          The extra fucked up part comes when the "new guys" purge all the people and systems that were already working and proven end up just circling around to more or less the old things. While of course acting like it was all their "ideas" after spending more money than was ever needed. The workers get fucked and the undervalued knowledge is lost (and the new workers also get fucked by being underpaid and overworked themselves). So fucking done with how much the wasteful executives giving themselves bonuses and keep cutting more and more corners.

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                          • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                            My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                            Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                            I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                            That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                            FOSS forever! ✊

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                            This won’t be the last time, I’m afraid. At the end of the day, software developers build sandcastles.

                            If you want to build something that will outlast your company, make sure you also have a hobby or craft outside of computing.

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                            • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                              Oof, that's rough. My spouse is a software engineer and has been through a similar thing recently.

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                              Based om all the replies in this post it seems like it happens quite a lot. Or it all just happens now for some reason...

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                              • J [email protected]

                                Can you run WSL or whatever it’s called? I se to remember some coworkers getting a Linux shell on windows. Of course that still leaves you with the shitty windows UI.

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                                My last job was Windows desktop, so I installed vmware and ran Linux in fullscreen mode.

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                                • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                                  My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                                  Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                                  I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                                  That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                                  FOSS forever! ✊

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                                  Well... shit. My company just sold my department to another company. The phrase they use in the office is "a Microsoft shop". We're talking Windows, Teams, Azure and O365.

                                  The transition is going to be shit. After the transition is over, it will be shit.

                                  I might just operate my workflow entirely out of WSL2 out of spite.

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                                  • drly@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                                    the next guy will likely have better/different ideas on how to do things.
                                    The extra fucked up part comes when the "new guys" purge all the people and systems that were already working and proven end up just circling around to more or less the old things. While of course acting like it was all their "ideas" after spending more money than was ever needed. The workers get fucked and the undervalued knowledge is lost (and the new workers also get fucked by being underpaid and overworked themselves). So fucking done with how much the wasteful executives giving themselves bonuses and keep cutting more and more corners.

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                                    Check your formatting

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                                    • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                                      Good question. I was in the process of testing out DokuWiki for internal documentation, that was really cool.

                                      But probably using Tailscale to phase out our janky ipsec VPN solution. Super high speed and bandwidth aren't a concern at my current place, so Tailscale would be a great solution to fix the current setup we have and make remote work much easier for end users.

                                      I was looking at a Grafana/Prometheus stack for active monitoring and metrics too, which would have been really cool.

                                      I was also talking to the former owner about developing an in-house piece of software that used machine learning and OCR to pull relevant data out of huge construction PDFs, convert it to CSV formatted data, and import that directly into our estimating software, saving our estimators massive amounts of time having to manually parse those documents and input the data line by line, cell by cell.

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                                      That last thing. Can you do it under an Open License and put on git?
                                      Seems like an improvement for all.

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                                      • N [email protected]

                                        Hoard a copy of your work. Even if your new overlords are gutting and replacing it, ot might be useful elsewhere one day.

                                        Source: Similar situation once upon a time. I am currently using on a daily basis what was once replaced in a different company.

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                                        Yeah.
                                        I retired a year ago, every now & then I say to myself "I'm sure I had a script for that..." bit then I can't find it of course, which makes me sad.

                                        Oh & I used to sign in to GitHub with a username & password, then GitHub said I needed to change my password, and emailed me a link to my old work address, which I can no longer access.

                                        So I'm going to have to fork my own stuff!

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                                        • O [email protected]

                                          I know it's rough. Trying to find a job that pays well and isn't deep into proprietary stuff like SQL Server, C# and alike. Sadly this scenario is overwhelmingly the case, and until the crowdfunded and open source scenario get strong (they still aren't) there isn't too much of an option.

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                                          I’d argue that most mainstream FOSS is extremely strong. Something like 80% of servers and 60% of smartphones run Linux. Up until recently, Cloudflare was using Nginx for their entire CDN. The thing they replaced it with is technically also FOSS.

                                          I think the real “weakness” of FOSS is that they don’t have the money or the desire to schmooze corporate decision makers. They also don’t have sexy GUIs, but anyone could contribute that if they wanted.

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