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  • N [email protected]

    I'm not saying it isn't bigoted.

    That's not what I said. Read more carefully.

    I said your logic concludes that you are bigoted for using it.

    How can we discuss this subject without me necessarily use it.

    You probably can't, which really puts you in a corner, logically.

    Using a word as an example isn't the same as using it in it's intended context.

    You previously stated that it is sexist in any context. So that's irrelevant.

    You didn't make an argument you made an insult that didn't even particularly make sense but it's intent was clear.

    My argument is perfectly clear: it's that your logic is flawed.

    That's ad hominem

    Again, no it's not. An ad hominem is when you use a character attack to discredit an argument. That's not what I'm doing.

    No I lost

    Lol

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    #416

    That's exactly what you're arguing.

    No it concedes that I'm using a bigoted word in a discussion about said bigoted word. It's really not hard to figure out unless you're trying to be blind.

    Not at all, I know it's bigoted, you just admitted it was bigoted and thus you agree with me. Duh.

    It is, you can't remove the racist insult from the hard r and you can't erase the sexism from mansplaining they are inherent.

    No your argument is janky at best and we know that because you devolved to insults rather than discussion.

    It is though it is amusing you just described what just did as your example of ad hominem.

    An error? Who makes those?! Grow up

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      That's exactly what you're arguing.

      No it concedes that I'm using a bigoted word in a discussion about said bigoted word. It's really not hard to figure out unless you're trying to be blind.

      Not at all, I know it's bigoted, you just admitted it was bigoted and thus you agree with me. Duh.

      It is, you can't remove the racist insult from the hard r and you can't erase the sexism from mansplaining they are inherent.

      No your argument is janky at best and we know that because you devolved to insults rather than discussion.

      It is though it is amusing you just described what just did as your example of ad hominem.

      An error? Who makes those?! Grow up

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      #417

      "My argument is perfectly clear: it’s that your logic is flawed."

      That’s exactly what you’re arguing.

      Yeah no shit, that's why I said it...

      No it concedes that I’m using a bigoted word

      Correct, which, by your logic, makes you a sexist:

      When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist just like I’m not stopping to ask the person dropping hard r’s if they think they’re racist

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      • N [email protected]

        "My argument is perfectly clear: it’s that your logic is flawed."

        That’s exactly what you’re arguing.

        Yeah no shit, that's why I said it...

        No it concedes that I’m using a bigoted word

        Correct, which, by your logic, makes you a sexist:

        When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist just like I’m not stopping to ask the person dropping hard r’s if they think they’re racist

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        #418

        That's not what I said. Read more carefully.

        That's what I was referring to, clearly. Though I love how your argument style just keeps getting more and more disingenuous and rude.

        No it means I exampled a bigoted word in a discussion about that word, there's a huge difference between an academic discussion and using it in my day to day life.

        If that's the way you need to see it to accept that it is on fact sexist then yes, sure. If rather you think I'm a bigot then you actually be a bigot and use bigoted terms.

        Yeah except that's me and we know I don't mean it given the plethora of context but please try to climb that pile you insist on greasing.

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          That's not what I said. Read more carefully.

          That's what I was referring to, clearly. Though I love how your argument style just keeps getting more and more disingenuous and rude.

          No it means I exampled a bigoted word in a discussion about that word, there's a huge difference between an academic discussion and using it in my day to day life.

          If that's the way you need to see it to accept that it is on fact sexist then yes, sure. If rather you think I'm a bigot then you actually be a bigot and use bigoted terms.

          Yeah except that's me and we know I don't mean it given the plethora of context but please try to climb that pile you insist on greasing.

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          #419

          That's what I was referring to, clearly.

          So your response to "That's not what I said" is "That's exactly what you're arguing?"

          Even though I explained it to you right after that line?

          I said your logic concludes that you are bigoted for using it.

          Weird.

          No it concedes that I'm using a bigoted word in a discussion about said bigoted word.

          Correct. And:

          When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist

          So, according to you:

          • The word is bigoted/sexist no matter the context
          • Using a bigoted/sexist term means you are going to be assigned to be sexist
          • You used a bigoted/sexist term

          Pretty simple stuff, guy. No one made you say these things. You can't be mad at me because you painted yourself into a corner.

          Yeah except that's me and we know I don't mean it given the plethora of context

          Contradicts with:

          When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist

          Which is it?

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          • N [email protected]

            That's what I was referring to, clearly.

            So your response to "That's not what I said" is "That's exactly what you're arguing?"

            Even though I explained it to you right after that line?

            I said your logic concludes that you are bigoted for using it.

            Weird.

            No it concedes that I'm using a bigoted word in a discussion about said bigoted word.

            Correct. And:

            When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist

            So, according to you:

            • The word is bigoted/sexist no matter the context
            • Using a bigoted/sexist term means you are going to be assigned to be sexist
            • You used a bigoted/sexist term

            Pretty simple stuff, guy. No one made you say these things. You can't be mad at me because you painted yourself into a corner.

            Yeah except that's me and we know I don't mean it given the plethora of context

            Contradicts with:

            When it’s a sexist term you’re going to be assigned to be sexist

            Which is it?

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            #420

            Jesus Christ, you're somehow losing the ability to follow a conversation.

            Why are you quoting yourself?

            It is sexist no matter the context, I'm not using it against anyone so I'm not a bigot I'm just exampling a bigoted word. You're being obtuse. Is there a way to remove the intended insult from the hard r? No. Can you remove the intended insult from mansplaining? No. So both of those are always bigoted at times you might argue there's some moral reason to do it but that's all ex post facto.

            It's sexist. If you need to see me as a bigot to get that across the so be it but you know as well as I do your argument is void of logic.

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              Jesus Christ, you're somehow losing the ability to follow a conversation.

              Why are you quoting yourself?

              It is sexist no matter the context, I'm not using it against anyone so I'm not a bigot I'm just exampling a bigoted word. You're being obtuse. Is there a way to remove the intended insult from the hard r? No. Can you remove the intended insult from mansplaining? No. So both of those are always bigoted at times you might argue there's some moral reason to do it but that's all ex post facto.

              It's sexist. If you need to see me as a bigot to get that across the so be it but you know as well as I do your argument is void of logic.

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              #421

              So it seems like what you're trying to say is that it's possible for you to use that word without being a sexist, depending on the context?

              Yes or no?

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              • N [email protected]

                So it seems like what you're trying to say is that it's possible for you to use that word without being a sexist, depending on the context?

                Yes or no?

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                #422

                Use it in a sentence in the correct context, I'll leave it to you to prove you can remove the insult from it.

                No, its always sexist. Point to where I said the person using it is always a sexist. What I've said is if you're saying someone is mansplaining you're in fact a sexist and I've said you cannot remove the intended insult.

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                • M [email protected]

                  Use it in a sentence in the correct context, I'll leave it to you to prove you can remove the insult from it.

                  No, its always sexist. Point to where I said the person using it is always a sexist. What I've said is if you're saying someone is mansplaining you're in fact a sexist and I've said you cannot remove the intended insult.

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                  #423

                  Let's try this again.

                  Yes or no:

                  Is it possible for you to use the word "mansplain" without being a sexist, depending on the context?

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                  • N [email protected]

                    Let's try this again.

                    Yes or no:

                    Is it possible for you to use the word "mansplain" without being a sexist, depending on the context?

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                    #424

                    Yes. We've gone over this. You can use it without being a sexist.

                    You cannot use it in the proper context without being a sexist ie. "Greg is mansplaining baseball." Because that's clearly a sexist insult.

                    Your think you're making a point but you're just rehashing shut you've apparently forgotten.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Yes. We've gone over this. You can use it without being a sexist.

                      You cannot use it in the proper context without being a sexist ie. "Greg is mansplaining baseball." Because that's clearly a sexist insult.

                      Your think you're making a point but you're just rehashing shut you've apparently forgotten.

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                      #425

                      Great!

                      So can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                      • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                      • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                      • not be a sexist herself?
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                        Great!

                        So can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                        • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                        • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                        • not be a sexist herself?
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                        #426

                        We've done this, you're rehashing your stupid argument again.

                        https://lemmy.world/comment/18496795

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                          We've done this, you're rehashing your stupid argument again.

                          https://lemmy.world/comment/18496795

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                          #427

                          Nowhere in that thread did you answer that question. Feel free to quote your answer and prove me wrong.

                          Let's try again:

                          Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                          • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                          • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                          • not be a sexist herself?
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                          • N [email protected]

                            Nowhere in that thread did you answer that question. Feel free to quote your answer and prove me wrong.

                            Let's try again:

                            Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                            • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                            • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                            • not be a sexist herself?
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                            #428

                            Then you aren't reading.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              You doesn't respond to a single one, you insulted me that's called abandoninga position to attack me instead ie: ad hominem.

                              Nope not at all. I said it's a bigoted word and if you use it as it's intended you're a bigot. This isn't difficult.

                              Show me the inconsistency.

                              All the parts you're intentionally ignoring to make your dipshit gotcha point.

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                              #429

                              Max comment depth reached.

                              I'm just going to keep asking this question until you either quote your alleged answer, or give a new one:

                              Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                              • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                              • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                              • not be a sexist herself?
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                                Max comment depth reached.

                                I'm just going to keep asking this question until you either quote your alleged answer, or give a new one:

                                Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                                • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                                • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                                • not be a sexist herself?
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                                #430

                                Neat.

                                Keep asking whenever you'd like but I'm not playing this game with you. I provided two separate answers that happen to be the same, just read the comment chain again.

                                Literally just read the comment chain and quit asking the same question over and over. You're not going to get the answer you want with a rapist mentality either boss but it does kinda evidence how gross you're willing to be.

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                                  Neat.

                                  Keep asking whenever you'd like but I'm not playing this game with you. I provided two separate answers that happen to be the same, just read the comment chain again.

                                  Literally just read the comment chain and quit asking the same question over and over. You're not going to get the answer you want with a rapist mentality either boss but it does kinda evidence how gross you're willing to be.

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                                  #431

                                  It's funny, every time you've accused me of not answering a question, I've provided screenshots and direct quotes. Pretty disingenuous of you not to do the same.

                                  I provided two separate answers that happen to be the same, just read the comment chain again

                                  I believe that you believe that's true. But having read that thread, I see nothing resembling an answer to that question. And since you refuse to just quote it, I have to assume it's just buried in your unreadable grammar and mess of typos.

                                  So let's try this again:

                                  Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                                  • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                                  • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                                  • not be a sexist herself?
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                                    It's funny, every time you've accused me of not answering a question, I've provided screenshots and direct quotes. Pretty disingenuous of you not to do the same.

                                    I provided two separate answers that happen to be the same, just read the comment chain again

                                    I believe that you believe that's true. But having read that thread, I see nothing resembling an answer to that question. And since you refuse to just quote it, I have to assume it's just buried in your unreadable grammar and mess of typos.

                                    So let's try this again:

                                    Can you give me a single example of a scenario where a woman could:

                                    • assess an interaction she had with a man,
                                    • deem his behaviour to be "misogynistic",
                                    • not be a sexist herself?
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                                    #432

                                    And I've directly linked the content chain that provides your answer, so crying because I'm not doing it in a dumber way.

                                    Yeah we get it you have a reading comprehension issue, move on.

                                    Keep asking the same question and I'm hoping to link the same answer but no no, keep on asking until you get a yes. That's a reasonable way to act.

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                                      And I've directly linked the content chain that provides your answer, so crying because I'm not doing it in a dumber way.

                                      Yeah we get it you have a reading comprehension issue, move on.

                                      Keep asking the same question and I'm hoping to link the same answer but no no, keep on asking until you get a yes. That's a reasonable way to act.

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                                      #433

                                      Yeah we get it you have a reading comprehension issue, move on.

                                      Look who's abandoning their argument in favor of an ad hominem. What a surprise.

                                      Let's see if I can guess what you think you wrote that answers my question!

                                      Is it this?

                                      Nope not at all. I said it's a bigoted word and if you use it as it's intended you're a bigot. This isn't difficult.

                                      Because that does not answer my question.

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                                        Yeah we get it you have a reading comprehension issue, move on.

                                        Look who's abandoning their argument in favor of an ad hominem. What a surprise.

                                        Let's see if I can guess what you think you wrote that answers my question!

                                        Is it this?

                                        Nope not at all. I said it's a bigoted word and if you use it as it's intended you're a bigot. This isn't difficult.

                                        Because that does not answer my question.

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                                        #434

                                        Yeah let's complain about that while badgering sometime until they give you the answer you want..... The one you've already gotten.

                                        It's that all that was in that comment chain or even in that response to your question? No! You didn't even bother quoting the direct answer. So tell me how I'm wrong about your reading comprehension.

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                                          And I've directly linked the content chain that provides your answer, so crying because I'm not doing it in a dumber way.

                                          Yeah we get it you have a reading comprehension issue, move on.

                                          Keep asking the same question and I'm hoping to link the same answer but no no, keep on asking until you get a yes. That's a reasonable way to act.

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                                          #435

                                          Hmm, okay, I'll guess again!

                                          Is it this?

                                          All the parts you're intentionally ignoring to make your dipshit gotcha point.

                                          Because that also doesn't answer my question, if so.

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