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Europe has the resources to defend itself and back Ukraine against Russia.

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  • donttreadonbigfoot@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    Of course it does. If Ukraine can hold them with just aid, then even one other country joining them in earnest should be plenty to turn the tide

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    Kinda depends which country, though. Liechtenstein, we wouldn't notice much. Poland on the other hand, they'd be at the gates of Moscow by next Tuesday probably.

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      Yes this sounds much more realistic than the FUD that has been spread for years. Hybrid warfare is real.

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        Of course we can, we just need the will to do it.

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          Kinda depends which country, though. Liechtenstein, we wouldn't notice much. Poland on the other hand, they'd be at the gates of Moscow by next Tuesday probably.

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          For those that don’t know; Liechtenstein disbanded its military in 1868 and has a population of 41,232 people.

          Post above wasn’t dunking on Liechtenstein, just pointing out that the statement of “one other country” has a slight flaw if that country was the smallest country with a population count of a town and no military.

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            EU out numbers Russia is most areas expect artillery and production. But I think the sheer difference in air capability will nullify that.

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            • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

              EU out numbers Russia is most areas expect artillery and production. But I think the sheer difference in air capability will nullify that.

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              In industrial terms it's not that hard to make artillery rounds either...

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                For those that don’t know; Liechtenstein disbanded its military in 1868 and has a population of 41,232 people.

                Post above wasn’t dunking on Liechtenstein, just pointing out that the statement of “one other country” has a slight flaw if that country was the smallest country with a population count of a town and no military.

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                Too late Lichtenstein already reinstated it's military to hunt down OP.

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                • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                  EU out numbers Russia is most areas expect artillery and production. But I think the sheer difference in air capability will nullify that.

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                  American air support should level the playing field in the air after Russia start receiving American hardware and European stuff gets grounded remotely.

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                  • pacology@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                    American air support should level the playing field in the air after Russia start receiving American hardware and European stuff gets grounded remotely.

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                    Can America anti air 5th gen fighters? I thought their radar signals were so tiny and they could outrun/out maneuver most surface to air missiles.

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                      In industrial terms it's not that hard to make artillery rounds either...

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                      I believe there is a supply shortage of one of the core ingredients required to make them and a major supplier supplies Russia over the west. *I might be talking out of my ass since this is just something I recall hearing a while ago.

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                      • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                        I believe there is a supply shortage of one of the core ingredients required to make them and a major supplier supplies Russia over the west. *I might be talking out of my ass since this is just something I recall hearing a while ago.

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                        Yeah they didn't invest in it for a long time. But as they do it will expand. It's just a matter of time and money.

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                        • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                          I believe there is a supply shortage of one of the core ingredients required to make them and a major supplier supplies Russia over the west. *I might be talking out of my ass since this is just something I recall hearing a while ago.

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                          There’s no exotic ingredients in artillery shells. The chemistry to make explosives is (relatively) simple organic chemistry, like any country capable of making fertilizer can easily achieve. The rest is just metal housing and some basic electronics (depends how sophisticated you want the fuzing to be).

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