Israeli army fires at French UNIFIL patrol near Rmeish in South Lebanon

[maalus@lemmy.world]

We found out recently that a brother of a colleague was murdered in Palestine. They were part of a convoy with Red Crescent, whose location was shared with the Israelis. At least 11 people were executed and burried, including him. All ambulances and trucks were destroyed.

[sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip]

I don't think that's what is meant by that comment.

Back about a decade ago now, the USS Liberty 'incident' was a bugaboo of Alex Jones and many other right wing conspiracy theorist types...

...who were correct in that yes, that is a thing that happened, it was basically covered up for decades, and almost no one knew about back in the 00's and 10's, and that the Israeli government and AIPAC have a huge amount of influence over US politicians and political discourse generally...

... but were very incorrect in then just slap dashing it into their growing conspiracy centric view of the entire world, which very, very often actually was just anti-semitic generally, utterly oversimplifying and overnarrativizing their understanding of 'how things actually work' into insane nonsense.

Fast forward 10 years, and basically all the people that were really concerned about the USS Liberty attack, you know, anti-Israeli government/military... well now they are basically all ardent Trump supporters, they all love violent Israeli genocidal expansionist Zionism, but also somehow simultaneously think Trump is ... anti-war or something?

I am of course guessing and cannot read Birch's mind... but yeah, if you come from a right wing upbringing and then later realized how bs that worldview is, like myself, and possibly like Birch...

It is indeed quite notable how much of a total 180 shift that is, amongst the right wing conspiracy theory types, and I think that is what they are referring to.

I don't think they are saying that those (mostly liberals, progressives and leftists) who've been vocally opposed to the Israeli genocide of Gaza (and everything else its now grown into) in the past few years suddenly changed their opinions about that in the last few months.

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

UN aid workers distributing the food say this claim is false. Why are you uncritically repeating Israeli propaganda?

[Guest]

I wish the French military had the reputation that the French population have.

[Guest]

Wellll https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-24272839

[Guest]

They sure showed themself way tougher when they shoot people in africa.

[Guest]

How bout that Israel backed Morocco in the berm and the French backed Angolans housing the native western Saharans. Largest conveyor belt in the world you can see from space drinking milk shakes for Israel.

[viking_hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

For someone pleading ignorance, you sure as hell know a lot of pro-Israel talking points. Being misinformed and spreading misinformation is NOT the same thing as being uninformed.

Hasbara is Hebrew for "explanation" and also the colloquial term for pro-Israel apologia amongst Hasbarists.

Hasbarists are the people who spread those lies.

[baroqueinmind@lemmy.one]

Thanks for the clarification.

Why are you uncritically repeating Israeli propaganda?

I don't know how many times i need to say this to get through to you idiots that I'm ignorant and need help purging propaganda, but you dipshits keep attacking me for asking questions.

[baroqueinmind@lemmy.one]

Appreciate the link!

[baroqueinmind@lemmy.one]

Fair point.

[azalty@jlai.lu]

Not sure killing civilians is the way…

[ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca]

Just a bad idea

[industrystandard@lemmy.world]

https://theconversation.com/gaza-war-no-evidence-of-hamas-infiltration-of-un-aid-agency-says-report-but-us-and-uk-dither-on-funding-while-famine-takes-hold-228583

And even the US saying it

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-envoy-says-israel-has-not-shown-evidence-that-hamas-is-diverting-un-aid-in-gaza

[redacted@infosec.pub]

Are you ok?

[baroqueinmind@lemmy.one]

Thank you for those links. I will read and get better informed from this.

[Guest]

I'm very gud actuallty thanks for asking wbu

[Guest]

Why? They bomb everybody else. We should bomb them. Them and the bitch yanks who are going full nazis.

[Guest]

They aren't civilians, they're all reservists.

[birch@sh.itjust.works]

The fuck are you lot on about