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    What the fuck are you talking about?

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      Why? They bomb everybody else. We should bomb them. Them and the bitch yanks who are going full nazis.

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      We aren’t ready for war

      Yanks and Russkis are

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        I don't think that's what is meant by that comment.

        Back about a decade ago now, the USS Liberty 'incident' was a bugaboo of Alex Jones and many other right wing conspiracy theorist types...

        ...who were correct in that yes, that is a thing that happened, it was basically covered up for decades, and almost no one knew about back in the 00's and 10's, and that the Israeli government and AIPAC have a huge amount of influence over US politicians and political discourse generally...

        ... but were very incorrect in then just slap dashing it into their growing conspiracy centric view of the entire world, which very, very often actually was just anti-semitic generally, utterly oversimplifying and overnarrativizing their understanding of 'how things actually work' into insane nonsense.

        Fast forward 10 years, and basically all the people that were really concerned about the USS Liberty attack, you know, anti-Israeli government/military... well now they are basically all ardent Trump supporters, they all love violent Israeli genocidal expansionist Zionism, but also somehow simultaneously think Trump is ... anti-war or something?

        I am of course guessing and cannot read Birch's mind... but yeah, if you come from a right wing upbringing and then later realized how bs that worldview is, like myself, and possibly like Birch...

        It is indeed quite notable how much of a total 180 shift that is, amongst the right wing conspiracy theory types, and I think that is what they are referring to.

        I don't think they are saying that those (mostly liberals, progressives and leftists) who've been vocally opposed to the Israeli genocide of Gaza (and everything else its now grown into) in the past few years suddenly changed their opinions about that in the last few months.

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        Thanks for defending me in such an eloquent way, I was just pointing out that the racist pieces of shit from some years ago who couldnt shut their traps about "the jews" are now all steadfast behind Trump and Israel and their crimes against humanity.

        I guess some people just want to see discord where there is none.

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          A foot patrol of the French unit operating within the UNIFIL reserve force came under fire from an Israeli army position while inspecting an earth barrier recently erected by Israeli forces in the Wadi Qatmoun area, on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Rmeish, according to the National News Agency (NNA).

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          War were declared

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            Thanks for defending me in such an eloquent way, I was just pointing out that the racist pieces of shit from some years ago who couldnt shut their traps about "the jews" are now all steadfast behind Trump and Israel and their crimes against humanity.

            I guess some people just want to see discord where there is none.

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            I had a hunch, looks like I was basically right.

            I... come from a family that's... well let me just put it this way:

            The last time I talked to my dad, I think 3 years ago now at this point, he was fully, fully down the QAnon rabbit hole, told me about how Tom Hanks' son rapes and kills children, after extracting their adrenochrome... and he then proceeded to show me how he partially mills, taps, and assembles AR 15s and 18s in his garage, having sourced parts that don't have serial numbers... thats what you call a ghost gun.

            He is exactly the kind of person that does these 180 flip flops and ... either doesn't remember he did, or has an elaborate nonsensical excuse/explanation.

            I am unfortunately way, way too familiar with basically nearly every right wing conspiracy theory that's existed in the last 40 years.

            ... I actually have Jewish cousins, and ... yeah, basically since as long as I can remember, he's made bigoted 'jokes' either behind their backs or occasionally even actually at family functions.

            My dad is my archetype for MAGA people: an abusive alcoholic narcissist asshole with no friends, who is never wrong, proficient in gaslighting, life didn't go the way he wanted it to, and it's all the fault of whoever right wing AM radio/ Fox News/ insane facebook posts and shit tier 'journalist' grifters told him to be mad at in the last week.

            ... thats all probably a bit more info than necessary, but I'm still pretty traumatized from a life time of that, and venting helps lol.

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              What the fuck are you talking about?

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              This argument around here is usually used to criticize pro-Palestinians for not falling in line with the DNC, with the idea being that they're all MAGAs or Russian trolls who wanted to sow division inside the anti-Trump coalition and don't actually care about Palestine. If that assumption was true, the number of people in online criticizing the US government's support of Israel would go down significantly after the election and especially after Trump's inauguration. Well, at least around here that didn't happen, but liberal pseudo-Zionists really like to pretend it did because otherwise they'd have to admit they were wrong. Anyway what I'm trying to say is: It might be a good idea to specify that you're talking about MAGA next time, because otherwise many people here will assume you're talking about the anti-Zionist left as that's the overwhelmingly more common version here.

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                Not sure killing civilians is the way…

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                There are no civilians in Israel. There's conscripted soldiers, and future conscripts.

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                  I don't think this is true, otherwise i could ask: so why don't they simply napalm the entire refugee camps they forced most of Gaza into?

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                  Committing a full blown genocide in one night is not going to work. They already study this shit. You have to do gradually and with in a tolerance because the world is now watching. At the beginning when they didnt have numbers, they will genocide a full villages and build on graves. You can find these information in wikipedea. Now days with cameras every where they calculate how many they can kill daily where they can have a long case saying we didnt genocide people.

                  This is to answer your question, but you also need to keep in mind what a genocide is. Erasing culture and identity is part of it which they do by replacing olive farms with pine trees on top of destroyed villages, or claiming a Palestinian cuisine as their own, or reducing the representation of Palestinian in pop culture. Targeting painters, poets, scientist, destroying children live by taking them hostages in prisons, and abusing them so they come out with lack of self identity and broken mentality.

                  You have to read about their history and the systematic genocide they are committing if you really care about known why and whats going on.

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                    War were declared

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                    Yeah the USS Liberty would like some justice finally. The only thing Israel likes more than bombing it's friends is bombing brown kids.

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                      Committing a full blown genocide in one night is not going to work. They already study this shit. You have to do gradually and with in a tolerance because the world is now watching. At the beginning when they didnt have numbers, they will genocide a full villages and build on graves. You can find these information in wikipedea. Now days with cameras every where they calculate how many they can kill daily where they can have a long case saying we didnt genocide people.

                      This is to answer your question, but you also need to keep in mind what a genocide is. Erasing culture and identity is part of it which they do by replacing olive farms with pine trees on top of destroyed villages, or claiming a Palestinian cuisine as their own, or reducing the representation of Palestinian in pop culture. Targeting painters, poets, scientist, destroying children live by taking them hostages in prisons, and abusing them so they come out with lack of self identity and broken mentality.

                      You have to read about their history and the systematic genocide they are committing if you really care about known why and whats going on.

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                      If they were doing a genocide, why would they care if the world was watching though? Why care at all what anyone else thought if they were committing to deleting a culture off the planet?

                      You sound like a Q-Anon conspiracy theory nutjob.

                      I need more from you, like a news article or factual Wikipedia article or literally anything with substance because i am having trouble believing anything anyone says at face value on the internet.

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                        I wish the French military had the reputation that the French population have.

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                        The French Foreign Legion is actually pretty badass

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                          Exactly, this is something lost in propagandizing this as a war and not a genocide, the IDF does not know how to fight a combined arms conflict at any infantry level, they have just been practicing genocide which I would imagine among other things makes you poorly mentally equipped with no mental plasticity to handle the speed and lethality of a motivated, near-peer military that isn't already conveniently contained within an open air prison.

                          This is going to end very badly for jews and people in general living in Israel, which among other reasons (obviously) is why the Palestinian Genocide is catastrophic.

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                          https://indi.ca/israel-has-already-lost/

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                            I had a hunch, looks like I was basically right.

                            I... come from a family that's... well let me just put it this way:

                            The last time I talked to my dad, I think 3 years ago now at this point, he was fully, fully down the QAnon rabbit hole, told me about how Tom Hanks' son rapes and kills children, after extracting their adrenochrome... and he then proceeded to show me how he partially mills, taps, and assembles AR 15s and 18s in his garage, having sourced parts that don't have serial numbers... thats what you call a ghost gun.

                            He is exactly the kind of person that does these 180 flip flops and ... either doesn't remember he did, or has an elaborate nonsensical excuse/explanation.

                            I am unfortunately way, way too familiar with basically nearly every right wing conspiracy theory that's existed in the last 40 years.

                            ... I actually have Jewish cousins, and ... yeah, basically since as long as I can remember, he's made bigoted 'jokes' either behind their backs or occasionally even actually at family functions.

                            My dad is my archetype for MAGA people: an abusive alcoholic narcissist asshole with no friends, who is never wrong, proficient in gaslighting, life didn't go the way he wanted it to, and it's all the fault of whoever right wing AM radio/ Fox News/ insane facebook posts and shit tier 'journalist' grifters told him to be mad at in the last week.

                            ... thats all probably a bit more info than necessary, but I'm still pretty traumatized from a life time of that, and venting helps lol.

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                            Sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing.

                            My dad is nowhere near as bad, but I have to helplessly watch how he slides deeper and deeper into the whole magaverse bullshit and drags my mom with him, they used to be open minded and reasonable, well educated people but since they retired they've got nothing else to do but read shit on the Internet to be outraged about and watch fascist news. I try to have reasonable conversations with them when visiting, but it gets worse as they get older, like they are not full blown magats or fascists but they say how there's pedophiles everywhere, communists are about to take over europe and climate change is just a story by some shadowy elite to scam governments and people, and are out to hurt the holy economy.
                            The kicker is that life has gone very well for them, they're struggling a little in retirement now since they failed to put any money aside other than their basic pensions, so there isn't even a reason to be this upset. You might call it pearl clutching, but it's not even that. My dad fled a communist country and built a good life from basically nothing for himself and our family, and now he rants about immigrants who are just trying to do the same. Anyway, also sorry for oversharing.

                            I just made a comment about racists being hypocrites, which ok, is not exactly clever or very observant, but somehow that got me labelled as a zionist lol.

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                              This argument around here is usually used to criticize pro-Palestinians for not falling in line with the DNC, with the idea being that they're all MAGAs or Russian trolls who wanted to sow division inside the anti-Trump coalition and don't actually care about Palestine. If that assumption was true, the number of people in online criticizing the US government's support of Israel would go down significantly after the election and especially after Trump's inauguration. Well, at least around here that didn't happen, but liberal pseudo-Zionists really like to pretend it did because otherwise they'd have to admit they were wrong. Anyway what I'm trying to say is: It might be a good idea to specify that you're talking about MAGA next time, because otherwise many people here will assume you're talking about the anti-Zionist left as that's the overwhelmingly more common version here.

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                              That is way too construed for me, who even thinks like that? I just tried to poke fun at their hypocrisy, apparently I have to specify an allegiance when doing a shit take

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                                Of all people I’d think it would be the French, they don’t fuck around.

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                                Our current government is openly pro-israel and anti-palestinian, we're not gonna do squat.
                                They've been calling any criticism towars bibi and any palestinian support antisemitic for the past 2 years - and most of the billionaires-controlled media has happily done the same.
                                Even if soldiers are killed, it's gonna be labeled a communication incident or some shit.

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                                  If they were doing a genocide, why would they care if the world was watching though? Why care at all what anyone else thought if they were committing to deleting a culture off the planet?

                                  You sound like a Q-Anon conspiracy theory nutjob.

                                  I need more from you, like a news article or factual Wikipedia article or literally anything with substance because i am having trouble believing anything anyone says at face value on the internet.

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                                  You just claimed that Hamas hides behind children in hospitals backed up but fucked all and you never provided anything. And no, asking questions is not a response to it. So your note in any position tho make demands like that.

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                                    You just claimed that Hamas hides behind children in hospitals backed up but fucked all and you never provided anything. And no, asking questions is not a response to it. So your note in any position tho make demands like that.

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                                    I'm trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself.

                                    You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

                                    Is your position so weak that you can't provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

                                    I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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                                      I'm trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself.

                                      You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

                                      Is your position so weak that you can't provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

                                      I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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                                      If you can so easily google shit your self, why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim about children as human shields in hospitals?
                                      If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually? Do you still think that is the case?

                                      And why is it that you get this excessive reaction at mild push back?
                                      Why is it that you can't be asked to do what you ask of others?
                                      Could you perhaps see how one could easily be lead to the conclusion that you're not acting in the spirit you claim to?

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                                        We aren’t ready for war

                                        Yanks and Russkis are

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                                        France have nukes. Just nuke tel aviv. They deserved it.

                                        And if the yanks doesn't like it then lets bomb new york. Just imagine all the dead yanks

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                                          Of all people I’d think it would be the French, they don’t fuck around.

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                                          Unfortunately I think only the foreign legion would have been likely to fire back here, and I don't they they do much peacekeeping.

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