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I need to vent about Windows. I want workplaces to use Linux.

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  • R [email protected]

    Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
    Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
    Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
    So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
    There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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    We have to use Windows at work for our high end CAD. There's no FOSS alternative.

    I use Linux at home. Which is basically a, less crap, copy of Windows. But is still missing important stuff.

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    • ian@feddit.ukI [email protected]

      We have to use Windows at work for our high end CAD. There's no FOSS alternative.

      I use Linux at home. Which is basically a, less crap, copy of Windows. But is still missing important stuff.

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      For 3D CAD I don't think there is a good alternative to Solidworks or Autodesk ones but for my company uses BricsCAD which is available on linux (debian/ubuntu) and is almost as good as AutoCAD, it's basically a copy so skills are quite transferable and it is cheaper also.

      I see it as the Da Vinci Resolve of 2D CAD

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      • aelis@lemm.eeA [email protected]

        One similar thing happened to me on windows 8 (except I wasn't testing it, I lost everything on my pc that day), so it's not even a new type of issue. Even windows 10 was fucked, had a friend who never used bitlocker, never even knew it was a thing, who got his pc encrypted by it after an update, unable to unlock the damn thing, every solutions failed and had no other choice but to wipe his drive. It's crazy how bad and unpractical windows can be.

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        Win lows 10 did the exact same bit locker crap to my best friend and attorney.

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        • R [email protected]

          For 3D CAD I don't think there is a good alternative to Solidworks or Autodesk ones but for my company uses BricsCAD which is available on linux (debian/ubuntu) and is almost as good as AutoCAD, it's basically a copy so skills are quite transferable and it is cheaper also.

          I see it as the Da Vinci Resolve of 2D CAD

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          Great. But AutoCAD and Solidworks are not high end CAD. Acceptable for some I guess. But we need serious CAD.

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          • R [email protected]

            Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
            Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
            Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
            So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
            There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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            A month ago, a windows update made my laptop crawl to a stop. It needed 2-3 hours to respond after a restart/shutdown. It would crash saying the search wasn't initialised, I couldn't type into the search. Fucking nightmare

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            • golden_zealot@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

              I unplugged my company issued Windows 11 Dell laptop from its charger yesterday so that I could go ask a manager a question in their office, and the entire computer just shut the fuck off despite having full charge. I'm so glad I moved all my personal stuff to Linux.

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              Heh that's a hardware issue.

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                24h2 is now a forced upgrade

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                #119

                Afaik there's a GPO for that

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                • R [email protected]

                  Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                  Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                  Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                  So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                  There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                  The differences in sheer speed and responsiveness is something FOSS alternatives need much more publicity about. When the requirements for one product are "help the user do what they want" and the requirements for another product are "synergize the KPIs of these 53 stakeholders in our trillion dollar conglomerate, monetize our market position in every way possible, and check the minimum viable checkboxes to keep end users engaged with the brand" it shows!

                  Windows to Linux is of course the most significant and worthwhile. As I like to describe it, even using the most full-featured distros out there (Linux Mint Cinnamon gang represent!) any flavor of Linux is like greased lightning compared with windows. And I mean Windows 10, not even 11.

                  A few weeks ago I turned on an old secondary desktop PC that had been powered off for a month. It had numerous updates, everything except installing a new named version. Even the kernel. I decided to time it. From the time I opened the software update GUI -- including typing in my password, letting it download, letting it install, getting the "yo, reboot when you're ready," etc -- it was done in 5 minutes. And those were 5 minutes where the computer was totally usable. Running the current version of the full featured Linux Mint Cinnamon 22.1 on a PC from 2011!

                  My favorite recent example is the switch from Plex to Jellyfin. Now granted, fully self-hosting means more IT admin type stuff for me so that family members and I can securely connect remotely. But god damn if every single app I have tried doesn't feel like warp speed compared with the Plex versions. Did you know that watching my media using the WebOS app on my LG TV does not have to be dog shit slow? And don't even get me started on phone apps like Finamp. (it really whips the jelly's ass?)

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                  • R [email protected]

                    Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                    Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                    Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                    So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                    There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                    Some governments outside the US either already have or are ditching Windows for Linux.

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                    • ian@feddit.ukI [email protected]

                      Great. But AutoCAD and Solidworks are not high end CAD. Acceptable for some I guess. But we need serious CAD.

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                      I thought AutoCAD was pretty much the industry standard for CAD unless something changed.

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                      • krolden@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                        Then come up with a better alternative to office 365.

                        Windows isn't keeping Microsoft around. Its their office software.

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                        Idk about you but for me Libreoffice is way better than MS crapwares.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                          Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                          Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                          So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                          There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                          I feel your pain. Aside from being slow as balls despite modern hardware, my Windows PC has a habit of occasionally locking up when I RIGHT CLICK on something T_T

                          Then it takes several minutes of no start menu/task bar, no trackpad gestures, no file explorer, etc before everything goes back to normal... for a few seconds before explorer crashes again. The only solution is a reboot.

                          I'm genuinely scared of doing anything on this machine.

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                            Yeah, I’d never seen it used in this way either. They use it mostly to modify config files, which gives you a lot of control over most things on a Linux box. We also use it for Macs to do things like create a standardized local administrator account (since Apple doesn’t have a LAPS equivalent). It’s a pretty tangled web but we have an old-school Linux admin who keeps it all ticking (we just worry about his ticker!).

                            Good luck!

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                            In Linux everything is a file. So modifying files is all you really need. The hardest part is how to handle mobile endpoints like laptops, that don't have always on connections. Ansible pull mode is what we were looking at in a POC, with triggers on VPN connection. Note we have a large Linux server footprint already managed by ansible, so it isn't a large lift for us.

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                            • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                              I'm not a "Linux hater". I love Linux. I'm just being honest. Normies aren't going to be able to use Linux until Linux developers and community decide it shouldn't only be usable by developers.

                              reminding us that Linux is the only OS family that ever needs troubleshooting

                              No one said that, you literally just made it up.

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                              In my experience, Linux mint hasn't had me use the terminal once to adjust settings.
                              I think its the best shot I've got at moving my mother over to if windows gets too slow.

                              I think its pretty normie friendly.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                Your complaints are certainly valid, but the IT of your company should be applying Group Policies to address some of these!

                                Enterprise version is also more stable than the goddamn "you are the guinea pig" spyware Home and Pro versions. O&O ShutUp10++ for those... Hilariously, they are a Microsoft Partner according to their website; some partnership that is when an automatic update from Microsoft can undo anything their software does. 😂

                                I'm by no means an expert but a power user... I saw the writing on the wall years ago and now have only one Windows machine explicitly for some hardware that have no Linux drivers but is otherwise very nice and useful.

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                                • ian@feddit.ukI [email protected]

                                  We have to use Windows at work for our high end CAD. There's no FOSS alternative.

                                  I use Linux at home. Which is basically a, less crap, copy of Windows. But is still missing important stuff.

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                                  No offense, but some folks apparently felt the need to downvote you because modern GNU/Linux is a copy of Windows, which is a copy of Macintosh, which is a copy of Xerox Alto.

                                  GNU/Linux is missing important stuff because manufacturers only pay someone to write drivers for Windows and sometimes Mac, because those are the dominant "normal user" OSes, because those are the OSes that manufacturers support...

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                                    I thought AutoCAD was pretty much the industry standard for CAD unless something changed.

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                                    AutoCAD might be widely used at the lower end, where many just create a sketch and extrude it. But that is no good for car or aircraft design, where you need high end smooth shape commands, and high productivity workflows.

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                                    • krolden@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                                      Sounds like you have a bad battery

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                                      Or bad Dell drivers, or Microsoft software. Not my picture, take with a grain of salt as they say.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                        Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                        Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                        So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                        There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Fuck Windows and Microsoft really.
                                          Today I had a meeting call through Teams first thing in the morning so I start my computer 10 minutes earlier than the call because it takes a like 3 or 4 minutes to boot and for Windows to be responsive. Windows decides to apply some past update so it takes 2 or 3 additional minutes which is fine, I am just in time for the meeting call.
                                          Well, 10 minutes into the call a notification in windows appears that the computer will restart in 5 minutes and with no option to postpone WTF. Imagine this was an important sales call, an emergency or something else critical, I might be fucked. The computer restarted I started my linux personal computer and I connect my bluetooth headphones to the it but no, they were connected to the Windows computer while it was restarting so I could not just call from it as the microphone started failing a few weeks ago. (I will just replace it, thanks Framework).
                                          So fuck my company for using Windows. Fuck Windows for developing such a nightmare OS with so shitty code. This was for sure a patch for a critical vulnerability, like always. And WTF this is Windows for a business, have a fucking super stable branch that does not need patches every other day. I don't care about your updates to the shitty weather widget, just have a fucking working operating system that let's me do my work. Fuck Microsoft monopolistic practices that keeps people and businesses from switching to Linux.
                                          There is no better publicity for Linux that Windows itself. Most Linux/GNU distros just let you choose when to update.

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                                          Re Microsoft in general. I had to install Powershell on Linux recently to get a work related task done. It was packaged on the Arch User Repository, so easily done.

                                          Got the task done and went to uninstall Powershell and realised there that the installed size was 186 MB. Checked the installed size of Linux-zen kernel and modules: 143 MB. So this tiny MS command-line utility was heftier than the kernel and drivers for all supported hardware. How do they even manage that?

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